Episode 144: Amplifying Prophetic Voices (Scott Esplin)
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In this episode of Why Religion, host John Hilton explores the vital role of amplifying the words of living prophets within the Church educational system, featuring a deep conversation with Scott Esplin, Dean of Religion at BYU. Drawing on Elder Clark G. Gilbert’s call to religious educators to integrate prophetic messages into teaching, Esplin and his co-authors examine how educators across CES institutions are responding. Using the metaphor of an audio amplifier, they break down four principles—gain, efficiency, linearity, and noise—to illustrate how teachers must first internalize prophetic messages (gain), live them authentically (efficiency), remain aligned with current prophetic direction (linearity), and avoid personal bias or cultural noise that distorts the message. The episode emphasizes that this isn’t just for full-time teachers but for every member, as all are called to be teachers in their homes, wards, and lives. Esplin shares his personal journey of returning to BYU, reflecting on divine guidance and the sacred responsibility of helping students develop faith in Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, and the restored gospel through the living prophets. The episode underscores a unique advantage of the Church: its prophetic governance, which provides a strategic asset not found in secular institutions. By studying scriptures like Doctrine and Covenants 42 and 52, and drawing from the words of prophets and apostles, educators are called to teach not just doctrine but the living voice of God. The message is clear: to be effective teachers, we must first become faithful listeners. The episode concludes with a powerful call to action—every student, every member, every teacher has the opportunity to become an amplifier of divine truth, helping gather Israel and prepare for the Lord’s return. The episode is both a theological reflection and a practical guide for discipleship in the modern era.
Amplify prophetic messages by first internalizing them deeply through study and prayer (gain).
Teach with authenticity and integrity—your character is more impactful than your content (efficiency).
Stay immediately aligned with the current prophet; avoid being ahead or behind the leadership (linearity).
Eliminate personal bias, cultural noise, and self-promotion that distort the message (noise).
Every member, not just religious educators, is called to be a teacher and amplifier of prophetic truth.
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The Call to Amplify Prophetic Voices
“I became overwhelmed with the sense of love for the young adults of the church. Second, I felt a sense of awe at the miracle of a living prophet called to teach these young adults in difficult times.”
The Foundation: Prophetic Authority in Scripture
Scott Esplin traces the scriptural basis for teaching through prophets, citing Doctrine and Covenants 42, 43, and 52. He explains that the Lord has established a law of teaching: we must teach what the scriptures and prophets teach, guided by the Spirit.
The Strategic Advantage of Prophetic Governance
“Having prophetic guidance is a tremendous advantage for BYU. It allows, in fact, it compels you to do things at this university that could be done nowhere else in the world.”
The Amplifier Framework: Gain, Efficiency, Linearity, Noise
“If all I have is a whisper to deal with, then gain can only be so big. If all I've got is a little bit to bring to the table, an amplifier can only increase so much.”
Teaching as a Sacred Responsibility
Esplin emphasizes that every member is a teacher. He shares how the Strengthening Religious Education document calls for all classes to be taught with the Spirit and that teachers must be role models of faithful discipleship. The goal is to help students develop testimony and become lifelong disciples.
“You teach what you are. It is that lesson in the memories of your students which will outlast all other lessons that you will teach.”
“If you're our Heavenly Father, if you're the Savior, and you could give any message on the day your church is being reorganized, you could have spoken about anything. I got a blank slate. I could give any section. This is the section they chose to give. And the message is, listen to prophets.”
“Having prophetic guidance is a tremendous advantage for BYU. It allows, in fact, it compels you to do things at this university that could be done nowhere else in the world.”
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Scott Esplin
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Brigham Young University
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Doctrine and Covenants
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Elder Clark G. Gilbert
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Jenna Erickson
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Church Educational System
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President Russell M. Nelson
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Why Religion Podcast
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Seminary and Institutes
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Strengthening Religious Education and Institutions of Higher Education
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