Philip Schultz’s ENORMOUS MORNING: Life, Poetry & Freedom
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In this deeply reflective episode of Writer's Voice, Pulitzer Prize-winning poet Philip Schultz discusses his latest collection, Enormous Mourning, a powerful meditation on aging, memory, and the possibility of renewal in later life. At 80 years old, Schultz reflects on his journey through loss, regret, and the enduring presence of loved ones—both living and deceased—while finding unexpected joy and meaning in the everyday. Through readings of poems like 'Enormous Morning,' 'Good News,' and the long-form 'Something and Nothing,' he explores how poetry becomes a vessel for transcendence, forgiveness, and moral courage. He confronts the political turmoil of our time with poems on figures like Alexei Navalny and the fragility of democracy, arguing that art and poetry are not escapes but essential tools for confronting truth and preserving dignity in dark times. Schultz also shares intimate personal stories—from his father’s struggles to his friendship with the immigrant worker Santos—revealing how creativity, empathy, and connection sustain the human spirit. The conversation underscores poetry’s role as a form of resilience and ethical engagement. Schultz emphasizes that writing is a way of asking hard questions, transforming pain into clarity, and finding grace even in sorrow. His ability to blend humor with gravity, personal history with universal themes, and artistic craft with political awareness makes this collection a testament to the enduring power of the poetic voice. Ultimately, the episode affirms that poetry is not merely an art form but a vital practice for living with integrity, hope, and courage in uncertain times.
Poetry is a path to transcendence, not escape—confronting difficult truths brings emotional clarity and renewal.
Aging offers a new perspective: deeper love for life, appreciation for sacrifice, and the ability to forgive past mistakes.
Creativity, especially poetry, is an act of resilience and joy, even when dealing with trauma or despair.
Art and memory preserve the past while helping us face the present with dignity and moral courage.
Democracy and freedom are fragile, but their defense begins with individual acts of courage and self-reflection.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Spiritual Dimension of Poetry
“I'm always seeking some kind, some form of transcendence. Probably in every poem I write.”
Enormous Morning: A Poem of Renewal and Memory
“An enormous morning opening wide its pearly jade wings over everything beginning again from the beginning.”
The Power of the Personal to the Universal
Schultz discusses his poetic process—starting with vivid, concrete scenes and moving toward larger themes of meaning, suffering, and ethics—drawing from his background as a painter and storyteller.
Good News and the Search for Joy Amid Catastrophe
“Here I am again, embedded in the wellsprings of mystery, seeking the smallest scrap of certainty.”
Something and Nothing: Poetry as Political Witness
“He gives people permission to be primitive. To express their hate, to those who feel left behind and put upon.”
“An enormous morning opening wide its pearly jade wings over everything beginning again from the beginning.”
“He gives people permission to be primitive. To express their hate, to those who feel left behind and put upon.”
“Yes, here we are, riddles wrapped up in a theory hidden in a paradox about the mind's hunger for something as redolent and willfully unremitting as dignity...”
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Philip Schultz
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Enormous Mourning
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Francesca Riannon
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Writer's Voice
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Santos
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Alexei Navalny
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Monica Banks
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Connie Fox
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Arshul Gorky
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Jim Dine
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