The Art of Effective Communication and Influence

Win Make Give with Ben Kinney25mApril 10, 2026

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In this episode of 'Win Make Give,' Ben Kinney, Chad Himes, and Bob Stewart explore the concept of 'trickling'—a powerful metaphor for how thoughts, emotions, and behaviors flow through relationships and organizations. The hosts use a visual diagram of a 'U' with arrows pointing up, down, and sideways to illustrate how energy, ideas, and problems move between people. They emphasize that while positive elements like accountability, models, systems, and enthusiasm should trickle down to those we lead—children, employees, mentees—negative emotions, complaints, and unresolved problems should not be passed down. Instead, individuals should 'trickle up' to those with the power to solve issues, such as bosses, mentors, or coaches. The conversation also introduces the idea of a 'Great Wall' around the self, symbolizing the need to filter what enters and exits our personal and professional circles. The hosts stress that every interaction either lifts or drains others’ energy, and awareness of this dynamic is key to effective leadership and influence. Real-life examples—from parenting and workplace culture to personal habits—highlight how small actions ripple outward, shaping behavior and mindset across generations and teams.

Key Takeaways
1

Trickle down positive values like accountability, systems, and models to those you lead, but never negative emotions or unsolvable problems.

2

Trickle up only to those who can solve problems—bring solutions, not just complaints.

3

Build a 'Great Wall' around yourself to filter what enters and exits your personal and professional space.

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Every interaction transfers energy—aim to leave others with more, not less.

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Be mindful of how your words and actions (even casual ones) are being absorbed by children, peers, and employees.

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Chapters
0:00
3 min

Introduction and the Concept of 'Trickling'

Ben Kinney welcomes back the team and introduces the core concept of 'trickling'—how ideas, emotions, and behaviors flow through relationships. The hosts set up a visual metaphor using a 'U' diagram to map how energy moves up, down, and sideways in personal and professional life.

2:30
5 min

Trickling Down: What to Share with Those Below You

You don't trickle down to your kids about a fight you had with your spouse. You don't trickle down to your kids about financial problems that you're having because, well, especially young kids, they can't do anything about it.

Highlight
7:30
7 min

Trickling Up: Who to Bring Problems to

If you walked into a room and you say, Chad, this thing's going so bad in my life. I have no money. And my mentor says, well, are you going to stop spending money on things that don't matter? I'm like, no. Then all we're doing is wasting our God, our bosses, our coaches, our mentors, those people's times.

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14:10
6 min

The Great Wall: Protecting Your Energy and Influence

We have to understand that we are the people that allow things into our life. Can we just call it the Great Wall of Ben then? It'd be the great wall of Chad for on your paper, but on my paper.

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20:00
6 min

Final Reflections and Call to Action

The hosts reflect on how names and roles shift within the 'trickle' framework—sometimes you're a peer, sometimes a leader, sometimes a mentor. They challenge listeners to evaluate their interactions and ensure they're lifting others. The episode ends with a call to join the Facebook group and share insights.

High-Impact Quotes
If you walked into a room and you say, Chad, this thing's going so bad in my life. I have no money. And my mentor says, well, are you going to stop spending money on things that don't matter? I'm like, no. Then all we're doing is wasting our God, our bosses, our coaches, our mentors, those people's times.
Ben Kinney16:03
Viral: 90.0
We don't poop in other people's kitchens. Right.
Ben Kinney14:11
Viral: 88.0
You don't trickle down to your kids about a fight you had with your spouse. You don't trickle down to your kids about financial problems that you're having because, well, especially young kids, they can't do anything about it.
Ben Kinney5:47
Viral: 85.0
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Ben KinneyChad HimesBob Stewart
Topics Discussed
Leadership Communication95%Emotional Intelligence90%Parenting and Family Influence88%Personal Responsibility87%Workplace Culture85%Energy Management82%Mentorship and Coaching80%Peer Relationships75%
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