Exclusive: Gavin Newsom’s “Empire of Fraud” - $180B STOLEN! (ft. John Ashbrook, Michael Duncan, & Chris Rufo)

Will Cain Country1h 19mApril 7, 2026

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In this episode of Will Cain Country, host Will Cain dives into a mix of high-stakes geopolitical speculation and investigative reporting on systemic fraud in California. The episode opens with a dramatic discussion about President Donald Trump's ominous post suggesting a potential military strike on Iran, with guests John Ashbrook and Michael Duncan of The Ruthless Podcast analyzing whether this is a genuine threat or a strategic negotiation tactic. They debate the potential for regime change, the humanitarian cost of bombing civilian infrastructure, and the possibility of a 'zombie leadership' replacing the current mullahs—though they agree the goal is not destabilization but a rational, non-nuclear Iran. The conversation then pivots to a series of controversial stories: the alleged hypocrisy of Iranian relatives living in luxury in Los Angeles while promoting anti-American rhetoric, the claim that Iran's women's soccer team may be composed of men, and the bizarre theory that Instagram likes could reveal rational actors within the regime. The episode's centerpiece is an investigation by Chris Rufo of City Journal into California's $180 billion in alleged fraud under Governor Gavin Newsom, covering Medi-Cal, unemployment insurance, and in-home care scams. Rufo details how the in-home care program—now the most common job in California—has become a massive fraud ring, with experts estimating $5–12 billion in annual theft. The episode also exposes the $114 million 'butterfly bridge' project, criticized for being over budget, over-scheduled, and funded with absurd expenditures on Native American rituals and left-wing activism. Finally, Rufo unpacks San Francisco’s 'Dreamkeeper Initiative,' a racially segregated slush fund that funneled millions into ideologically driven nonprofits, some of which were later found to involve fraud. The episode closes with a broader cultural critique of the 'racial retrograde' in America, arguing that racial attitudes have regressed since 2014 despite the promise of post-racial unity under Obama.

Key Takeaways
1

The in-home care program in California is the most common job in the state, with an estimated $5–12 billion in annual fraud due to its honor-system structure.

2

California has lost between $180–280 billion to fraud under Gavin Newsom, primarily through Medi-Cal, unemployment, and welfare programs.

3

The $114 million butterfly bridge project in Southern California is over budget, over schedule, and funded with questionable expenditures on rituals and activism.

4

San Francisco’s Dreamkeeper Initiative is a racially segregated government program that funneled $130 million into ideologically driven nonprofits, some of which were later found to involve fraud.

5

The episode argues that the decline in racial attitudes since 2014 is not due to right-wing backlash but to left-wing ideological shifts, particularly after the rise of BLM and DEI.

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Chapters
0:00
18 min

Trump’s Iran Ultimatum: Threat or Strategy?

I think the Mossad and Israel's goals in this are totally different. And they may. And if that's the case, there's got to be an underground effort to be arming the Iranian people.

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18:20
23 min

Iranian Relatives in LA: Luxury, Hypocrisy, and Social Media Clues

I think within that analysis, we will find the rational state actor and we will find your future leader of Iran.

Highlight
41:40
17 min

The Missing Scientists: Aliens, Foreign Spies, or Organized Crime?

I think there's also incentive by people who are involved in receiving that money to stop anybody from closing that revenue stream.

Highlight
58:20
33 min

Gavin Newsom’s $180B Empire of Fraud: California’s Systemic Collapse

In California's case this is 800,000 people receiving public funds in the privacy of their own homes... and fewer than 100 prosecutions.

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1:31:40
38 min

San Francisco’s Racialist Slush Fund and the Rise of ‘Racial Retrograde’

This is a racially segregated government program that provides benefits for only one group at the exclusion of other groups. That's what it is in practice.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
In California's case this is 800,000 people receiving public funds in the privacy of their own homes... and fewer than 100 prosecutions.
Chris Rufo44:38
Viral: 95.0
This is a racially segregated government program that provides benefits for only one group at the exclusion of other groups. That's what it is in practice.
Chris Rufo55:07
Viral: 92.0
I think within that analysis, we will find the rational state actor and we will find your future leader of Iran.
Will Cain36:21
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Host

Will Cain

Guests

John AshbrookMichael DuncanChris Rufo
Topics Discussed
California Fraud Scandal95%In-Home Care Fraud92%Iranian Regime Negotiations90%Racially Segregated Government Programs88%Government Infrastructure Waste85%Missing Scientists Conspiracy80%Social Media as Intelligence Tool75%Nuclear Threats and Diplomacy70%
People & Brands

Donald Trump

person

18xPositive

Gavin Newsom

person

15xNegative

Chris Rufo

person

12xPositive

John Ashbrook

person

10xNeutral

Michael Duncan

person

10xNeutral

San Francisco

place

8xNegative

The Ruthless Podcast

organization

6xNeutral

Qasem Soleimani

person

5xNegative

Dreamkeeper Initiative

organization

5xNegative

City Journal

organization

4xPositive

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