John Robins (Part One)
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In this first part of a two-part episode, Emily Dean welcomes comedian, podcaster, and writer John Robins to her podcast 'Walking the Dog' for a reflective walk through the Buckinghamshire countryside. The conversation begins with playful banter about Raymond, Emily's silent, slow-moving 'Ewop' (a fictional, non-existent dog), and John's initial skepticism about appearing on a dog-themed show. Despite his self-described aversion to dogs—rooted in discomfort with noise, mess, and perceived neediness—John gradually reveals a deeper, more nuanced relationship with animals, especially through his childhood experiences with cats and a traumatic family dynamic involving his father’s departure and a stepfather’s dog. The heart of the discussion centers on John’s new memoir, 'Thirst: 12 Drinks That Changed My Life,' a candid, humorous, and moving account of his alcohol addiction and journey to sobriety. He reflects on early signs of alcoholism at age seven, the psychological toll of his upbringing, and how sobriety has allowed him to reconnect with nature, presence, and a childlike wonder. Emily shares her own grief journey and how her dog became a grounding force, creating a powerful emotional resonance between their stories. The episode ends with John expressing growing affection for Raymond, suggesting that even the most reluctant dog skeptic can be transformed by quiet, consistent presence.
Alcoholism often begins subtly—John recalls hiding wine at age seven, a moment he only recognized as significant in retrospect.
Sobriety has allowed John to reclaim interior peace and reconnect with nature as a spiritual practice.
Childhood trauma, especially parental absence, can shape adult relationships with animals and emotional regulation.
Presence—like that of a slow, observant dog—can be a radical act of mindfulness in a distracted world.
The most powerful healing comes not from fixing the past, but from reframing it with compassion and perspective.
A Dog That Isn't a Dog: The Walk Begins
Emily Dean introduces John Robins to the podcast, setting up the premise of 'Walking the Dog' with her silent, slow-moving 'Ewop' Raymond. John expresses initial hesitation about appearing on a dog-themed show, but the playful dynamic begins to ease his skepticism as they walk through the idyllic Buckinghamshire countryside.
The Anti-Dog Agenda: John's Relationship with Animals
John opens up about his deep discomfort with dogs—especially their noise, mess, and perceived neediness—linking it to his childhood trauma and a difficult relationship with his stepfather’s dog. He contrasts this with his deep bond with cats, describing their quiet, self-sufficient nature as more aligned with his own introverted personality.
The Wine at Seven: Early Signs of Addiction
“I did three quite quite alcoholic things at seven yeah and it was really helpful for me to go back through life to put alcohol in the context of someone who realized they were an alcoholic only when they stopped drinking.”
Sobriety as Spiritual Rebirth
“I just come out anywhere like this and be like none of it fucking matters. I mean literally what does that tree care about my life?”
The Goodbye Ceremony: Grief, Memory, and Magic
“It's like, yeah you're going to be an alcoholic mate. Because that is absolutely nuts. And whatever is going on in your head, you need to shut that up.”
“I just come out anywhere like this and be like none of it fucking matters. I mean literally what does that tree care about my life?”
“I did three quite quite alcoholic things at seven yeah and it was really helpful for me to go back through life to put alcohol in the context of someone who realized they were an alcoholic only when they stopped drinking.”
“You can both miss someone and realise it was for the best at the same time.”
Host
Guest
John Robins
person
Emily Dean
person
Raymond
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Thirst: 12 Drinks That Changed My Life
book
Queen
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Buckinghamshire
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Ellis James
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Amanda Knox
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How Do You Cope?
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Bristol
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Alasdair Beckett-King (Part Two)
Walking The Dog with Emily Dean • 56m • 4/2/2026
Kiell Smith-Bynoe (Part One)
Walking The Dog with Emily Dean • 39m • 4/7/2026
Kiell Smith-Bynoe (Part Two)
Walking The Dog with Emily Dean • 52m • 4/9/2026
Olly Smith (Part One)
Walking The Dog with Emily Dean • 46m • 4/14/2026
Olly Smith (Part Two)
Walking The Dog with Emily Dean • 58m • 4/16/2026
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