Episode 3244 –  The Wyoming Vietnam Veterans Day Celebration, Part 2

Vietnam Veteran News with Mack Payne14mApril 7, 2026

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In this second part of Episode 3244 of the Vietnam Veteran News Podcast, host Mac Payne continues the story of Wyoming's 2026 Vietnam Veterans Day celebration, held at the National Museum of Military Vehicles in Dubois. The episode centers on Lee Alley, Wyoming’s most decorated Vietnam veteran, whose heroic actions during the 1967 Viet Cong assault on Fire Base Cudgel earned him a Distinguished Service Cross and multiple other honors. Payne recounts Alley’s harrowing last stand—firing weapons until they were spent, throwing them into the river, and using grenades until he finally swam to safety. The emotional climax comes when Alley returns to Vietnam and meets one of his former enemies, leading to a powerful moment of reconciliation: a shared hug and a mutual promise to end their nightmares. The episode also highlights the ongoing struggles of Vietnam veterans with PTSD, suicide, and reintegration, emphasizing the critical role of community, recognition, and institutions like the museum in healing. Host Mac Payne praises Dan Starks, the museum’s owner, for creating a space that honors veterans’ sacrifices and fosters understanding among civilians.

Key Takeaways
1

Lee Alley’s selfless last stand at Fire Base Cudgel exemplifies extraordinary courage under fire, earning him multiple combat medals.

2

The emotional reunion between Alley and a former enemy in Vietnam symbolizes the possibility of healing and reconciliation after war.

3

Veteran suicide and PTSD remain critical issues, underscoring the need for societal recognition, purpose, and connection.

4

The National Museum of Military Vehicles in Dubois, Wyoming, serves as a vital sanctuary for veterans and a bridge of understanding for the public.

5

Honoring veterans is not just about medals—it’s about restoring dignity, purpose, and community after service.

Chapters
0:00
0 min

Pledge of Allegiance

The episode opens with the Pledge of Allegiance, setting a solemn and patriotic tone.

0:17
1 min

Introduction to Episode 3244

Host Mac Payne introduces the episode as the second part of a story about Wyoming’s Vietnam Veterans Day celebration, focusing on Lee Alley and the broader veteran experience.

0:57
2 min

Lee Alley’s Heroic Last Stand

When all the weapons were gone, he went to the hand grenades. I know that I've got to make every one of these count.

Highlight
2:30
3 min

The Journey Back to Vietnam

We're going to stand here on this spot and we're going to hug. We're going to hold each other. And we must go forward from here on out and promise each other the nightmares will end today.

Highlight
5:00
3 min

Veteran Mental Health and the Cost of War

Far too many veterans are fighting this battle alone... and for far too many, the fight ends in death by their own hands.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
We're going to stand here on this spot and we're going to hug. We're going to hold each other. And we must go forward from here on out and promise each other the nightmares will end today.
Former Enemy (via interpreter)8:29
Viral: 95.0
We don't mean we owe VA benefits. I mean, we owe support and transition and employment and recognition and purpose and connection. That's what we owe.
Dan Starks10:32
Viral: 90.0
Far too many veterans are fighting this battle alone... and for far too many, the fight ends in death by their own hands.
Dan Starks9:19
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Mac Payne

Guests

Lee AlleyDan Starks
Topics Discussed
Vietnam Veterans Day Celebration95%Reconciliation and Healing After War92%Lee Alley's Heroism and Legacy90%Veteran Mental Health and PTSD88%Veteran Suicide and Social Responsibility85%Military Museums and Public Education80%Post-Traumatic Stress and Nightmares78%Veteran Reintegration into Civilian Life75%
People & Brands

Lee Alley

person

15xPositive

Mac Payne

person

12xPositive

Vietnam War

other

10xNeutral

Dan Starks

person

10xPositive

National Museum of Military Vehicles

organization

8xPositive

Viet Cong

organization

6xNeutral

Dubois, Wyoming

place

5xPositive

Post-Traumatic Stress

other

4xNeutral

Fire Base Cudgel

place

4xNeutral

Veteran Suicide

other

3xNegative

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