Pro bird dog trainers Ronnie & Susanna Smith on composure, puppy development and getting the most from your dog

Upland Nation1h 1mMay 5, 2026

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In this episode of Upland Nation, host Scott Linden interviews renowned bird dog trainers Ronnie and Susanna Smith, who share their philosophy on developing high-performance hunting dogs through a balance of composure, focus, and relationship-based training. The couple emphasizes that successful dog training is not a rigid formula but an art rooted in understanding each dog’s individual mindset. They stress the importance of cultivating composure from a young age—teaching puppies to stand still, remain calm, and respond to cues—while also nurturing prey drive through controlled bird exposure starting as early as six to eight weeks. Their approach prioritizes mental balance: a dog must be both highly driven and obedient, neither too wild nor too subdued. The conversation explores practical techniques like using the dog’s natural instincts to teach scent work, adjusting training based on maturity and breed, and maintaining peak performance through varied environments and strategic 'tune-up' sessions. The Smiths also reflect on the deep camaraderie within the hunting community, where dogs serve as a unifying force. Key takeaways include: 1) Composure is a trainable skill that should be reinforced early through reward-based training; 2) Bird exposure must be carefully managed and age-appropriate to build confidence and focus; 3) Training should be dynamic—changing locations and routines to prevent stagnation and maintain mental freshness; 4) The dog’s relationship with the handler is foundational, with obedience serving as a path to freedom and confidence; and 5) Peak performance comes from a delicate balance between control and instinct, best achieved through consistent, thoughtful training. The episode closes with heartfelt appreciation for the hunting community and the sponsors who support it.

Key Takeaways
1

Composure is a trainable skill that should be reinforced early through reward-based training.

2

Bird exposure must be carefully managed and age-appropriate to build confidence and focus.

3

Training should be dynamic—changing locations and routines to prevent stagnation and maintain mental freshness.

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The dog’s relationship with the handler is foundational, with obedience serving as a path to freedom and confidence.

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Peak performance comes from a delicate balance between control and instinct, best achieved through consistent, thoughtful training.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

Sponsor: USA Clay Target League

Scott introduces the USA Clay Target League as a youth shooting sports program that promotes safety, affordability, and lifelong participation, encouraging listeners to start a team in their school district.

2:00
3 min

Welcome to the Pheasant Fest & Community Spirit

Scott welcomes listeners to the Pheasant Fest and Quail Classic, highlighting the strong sense of community among hunters and the importance of dogs in bringing people together.

5:00
5 min

Introducing Ronnie & Susanna Smith: Legendary Dog Trainers

Scott introduces Ronnie and Susanna Smith, celebrated dog trainers with decades of experience, emphasizing their unique, relationship-based approach to training and their impact on the hunting world.

10:00
10 min

The Art of Training: Mindset Over Method

Every dog’s different. We learn from every dog. So it never gets stagnant. It's always challenging.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

Cultivating Composure in Young Dogs

We want them to stand calmly and then we'll love on them and we'll love them up and show them that that's the behavior we want.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
You want one wheel off the rails. Not all four of them, just one off the rails.
Scott Linden24:07
Viral: 90.0
When the dog is at their absolute best, it’s when they’re a half a step from being too steady, too focused on the rules or a half a step on the other side from being out of control.
Ronnie Smith23:26
Viral: 88.0
Every dog’s different. We learn from every dog. So it never gets stagnant. It's always challenging.
Susanna Smith6:00
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Scott Linden

Guests

Ronnie SmithSusanna Smith
Topics Discussed
dog training philosophy95%composure in hunting dogs92%performance mindset90%prey drive development88%relationship-based training87%early puppy training85%bird exposure techniques83%maintaining mature dog focus80%
People & Brands

Ronnie Smith

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Susanna Smith

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Scott Linden

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National Pheasant Fest and Quail Classic

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Purina ProPlan Sport Dog Food

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5xPositive

Mid-Valley Clays and Shooting School

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4xPositive

Truelock Chokes

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4xPositive

quail

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Johnny House birds

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Huron, South Dakota

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