Coinbase's Chief Policy Officer on Why He Believes the Clarity Act Will Pass
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In this episode of Unchained, host Laura Shin interviews Faryar Shirzad, Chief Policy Officer at Coinbase, about the ongoing legislative battle surrounding the Clarity Act and its implications for the U.S. crypto industry. Shirzad provides a detailed breakdown of the compromise reached on stablecoin yield restrictions, explaining how the new language allows rewards to be paid based on meaningful customer activity—such as trading or custodial actions—rather than mere holding. While the banks succeeded in limiting interest-like payments, Shirzad argues the outcome is a workable compromise that preserves critical adoption incentives. He emphasizes the broader significance of the Clarity Act, which aims to provide comprehensive regulatory clarity for blockchain-based applications, developer protections, and the integration of tokenized financial instruments into the U.S. economy. Despite lingering concerns over the ethics provision and potential legal challenges, Shirzad remains confident the bill will pass by the July 4th deadline, citing strong bipartisan support and high-level political engagement. Shirzad also addresses the long-term vision for crypto, arguing that it’s not a niche subculture but the future of finance. He dismisses the idea that the industry opposes regulation, stressing that clear rules are essential to combat bad actors and foster innovation. Even if the Clarity Act fails to pass this year, he believes significant progress will continue through agency rulemaking. Looking ahead, Coinbase’s policy focus will shift to tax clarity, ongoing regulatory rulemaking, and global expansion. The episode concludes with a strong message: despite political hurdles, the U.S. is on a path toward becoming a global leader in crypto innovation through thoughtful, durable legislation.
The Clarity Act compromise allows stablecoin rewards based on meaningful customer activity, not just holding—preserving a key adoption tool for crypto firms.
Despite bank opposition, the bipartisan leadership of Senators Tillis and Alcibrooks, with strong White House backing, has created a strong foundation for passage by July 4th.
The ethics provision remains unresolved but is seen as a political hurdle rather than a technical one; its impact on presidential family holdings is unclear.
Even without legislation, robust agency rulemaking by the SEC, CFTC, and banking regulators will continue to advance crypto integration.
Tax clarity is the next major policy priority, with the goal of achieving parity between crypto and traditional financial assets.
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Introduction and Sponsor Segment
Laura Shin welcomes listeners to Unchained and introduces the episode's sponsor, Adaptive Security, a cybersecurity firm backed by OpenAI that helps organizations defend against AI-powered threats like deepfakes and synthetic identities.
The Stablecoin Yield Compromise
“The customer can engage in, you know, trading activity, custodial activity, any number of other things on the exchange. As long as the, you know, the activities of a sufficient, you know, commercial and economic kind of, you know, quality, then the customer does qualify.”
Banks vs. Crypto: The Political Battle
“It's a 15-round heavyweight championship fight that we're in. You know, the early rounds. Some have gone our way, some have gone their way. But I think we'll work it out.”
The Broader Significance of the Clarity Act
“Once you have clarity for developers to be able to build blockchain-based applications and to have legal certainty about what their economic exposure is, it's enormous, the consequential nature of what is being done.”
The Ethics Provision and Political Realities
Shirzad addresses the unresolved ethics clause, which would regulate government officials’ crypto holdings. He acknowledges it’s outside the crypto industry’s control but stresses the importance of allowing officials to use crypto as a financial tool.
“The crypto industry’s push for regulation is not about avoiding oversight—it’s about enabling innovation through legal certainty.”
“Once you have clarity for developers to be able to build blockchain-based applications and to have legal certainty about what their economic exposure is, it's enormous, the consequential nature of what is being done.”
“The core of the bill is a big regulatory framework, and that's probably the best thing anybody can do if you're worried about bad behavior in the sector is to empower the agencies and give them rules at work so that they can then police bad behavior when it occurs.”
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