Episode 130: Cups, Plates and Trophy Design
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In this episode of Two Designers Walk Into A Bar, hosts Elliot and Todd dive into the fascinating history and symbolism behind iconic sports trophies, focusing on why so many are shaped like cups, plates, and dishes. They explore the origins of trophies as spoils of war—ranging from severed heads to captured armor—and trace their evolution into ceremonial objects like the Wimbledon Venus Rosewater Dish and the Stanley Cup. The discussion reveals how cultural values, gender norms, and historical design traditions shaped these awards, with the Wimbledon women's trophy (a silver salver) reflecting 19th-century domestic ideals, while the Stanley Cup’s ever-growing, engraved base symbolizes decades of hockey history. The hosts also uncover quirky details: the Stanley Cup is not a single trophy but three distinct versions, with the original retired in 1970; the current presentation cup travels with winning teams for 24 hours, becoming a makeshift baptismal font, cereal bowl, or even a prop in an Apple store. The episode blends humor, historical depth, and design insight to celebrate these objects as living artifacts of legacy and community. Key takeaways include: trophies evolved from war spoils into symbolic vessels of celebration; the Stanley Cup’s modular design allows it to grow over time with engraved rings; winning teams get to keep the Cup for just one day; and design choices like the salver or rosewater dish reflect deeper cultural values. The episode underscores how physical objects like trophies carry emotional weight, historical continuity, and shared identity across generations.
Trophies originated as spoils of war, including heads and armor, evolving into symbolic vessels of victory.
The Wimbledon women’s trophy is a silver salver, a design rooted in 19th-century domestic ideals, reflecting historical gender roles.
The Stanley Cup is not a single trophy but three distinct versions: the original, the Presentation Cup, and the Permanent Cup.
The Stanley Cup’s base is modular—rings are swapped out and retired every 60–65 years, preserving the history of every champion.
Winning teams get to keep the Stanley Cup for 24 hours, during which it has been used as a baptismal font, dog dish, and even in an Apple store.
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The Trophy Bar: Cups, Plates, and the Origins of Victory
The hosts open the episode in a bar filled with quirky trophies, sparking a curiosity about why so many awards are shaped like cups, plates, and dishes rather than the actual sports equipment. They begin exploring the historical roots of trophies as spoils of war, from severed heads to captured armor.
From Battle Spoils to Ceremonial Vessels: The Evolution of Trophies
The hosts trace the evolution of trophies from ancient battle markers to ceremonial objects, explaining how functional items like cups and plates became symbols of victory due to their universal recognition and association with feasting and community.
The Wimbledon Venus Rosewater Dish: A Gendered Design Mystery
“The women get this beautifully decorated plate to catch hand washings from them and the men get a trophy and on the trophy it's engraved The All England Lawn Tennis Club Single-Handed Championship of the World.”
The Stanley Cup: A Living, Growing Trophy of Legacy
“It's been used as a baptismal font. It's been a cereal bowl, dog dish and naturally Todd we are in a bar you have to drink champagne out of it if you're a champion.”
Trophies as Cultural Artifacts: Stories in Silver and Steel
The episode concludes with a reflection on how trophies like the Stanley Cup and Wimbledon dish are more than awards—they are living, evolving artifacts that carry stories, scars, and collective memory across generations.
“It's been used as a baptismal font. It's been a cereal bowl, dog dish and naturally Todd we are in a bar you have to drink champagne out of it if you're a champion.”
“The women get this beautifully decorated plate to catch hand washings from them and the men get a trophy and on the trophy it's engraved The All England Lawn Tennis Club Single-Handed Championship of the World.”
“The Stanley Cup is not a single trophy but three distinct versions: the original, the Presentation Cup, and the Permanent Cup.”
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Elliot
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Todd
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Stanley Cup
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Wimbledon Venus Rosewater Dish
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All England Lawn Tennis Club
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Hockey Hall of Fame
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Lord Frederick Arthur Stanley
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Francois Briot
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Carolina Hurricanes
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Montreal Hockey Club
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