Faisal Devji on the crisis of 'global Islam' in Turkey and elsewhere
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In this episode of Turkey Book Talk, host William Armstrong interviews Faisal Devji, professor of global and imperial history at Balliol College, Oxford, about his book 'Waning Crescent: The Rise and Fall of Global Islam.' Devji traces the transformation of Islam from a primarily religious tradition into a political and ideological force in the late 19th and 20th centuries, driven by the collapse of Muslim political sovereignty and the rise of European imperialism. He argues that the concept of 'global Islam' emerged as a defensive, transnational identity—reminiscent of ideologies like capitalism and communism—enabling ordinary Muslims to speak in its name. However, this ideological project, particularly in the form of Islamism, has now entered a crisis, especially evident in Turkey and Iran, where public disillusionment with Islamist governance and declining religious observance signal a waning of its political appeal. Devji situates this decline not as a unique Muslim phenomenon but as part of a broader global shift away from ideological states following the end of the Cold War. He also explores emerging spiritual trends in both the West and Muslim-majority societies, suggesting a potential return to more personal, esoteric, or theological forms of religiosity that may not center on the term 'Islam' as a political actor. The episode concludes with a call for listener support to sustain the independent podcast. Key takeaways include: 1) The 19th-century reimagining of Islam as a global political subject was a response to imperial decline, not a timeless religious identity; 2) Islamism functioned as a Cold War ideology, modeled on Bolshevik and socialist frameworks, and its decline reflects the broader collapse of ideological states worldwide; 3) The current crisis in Turkey and Iran is not just political but social, driven by changing economic structures and generational shifts; 4) The future may lie in more individualized, spiritual, or theological forms of religiosity rather than ideological mobilization; 5) Turkey’s unique historical trajectory—non-colonized, imperial legacy, and resistance to Kemalist secularism—makes its experience of Islamism distinct from other Muslim-majority nations.
Islam was reimagined as a global political subject in the 19th century, not as a timeless religious tradition.
Islamism emerged as a Cold War ideology, modeled on Bolshevik and socialist state structures.
The decline of Islamism reflects a broader global exit from ideological states, not just a Muslim-specific phenomenon.
Public disillusionment in Turkey and Iran stems from both failed governance and shifting social dynamics.
A new spiritual or theological phase may be emerging, moving beyond ideological Islam.
Introducing Faisal Devji and the Concept of Global Islam
“Islam is an actor and is an agent of history because, as I argue in the last bit of the book, when you look at contemporary Muslim mobilizations in many different parts of the world, Islam is no longer the kind of subject, agent and protagonist of history that it had been for so long.”
The Rise of Global Islam: From Decline to Ideology
“To imagine Islam itself as a subject in its own right... that has a career of its own, that is threatened in history and by histories, struck me as being quite a new thing.”
Islamism as a Cold War Ideology
“If the communists are thinking about Marxism as an ideology, and the communist or Bolshevik state is an ideological state which is meant to do certain things and accomplish certain ends... an ideological state is not like that. It has very particular ends in mind and it's teleological in conception.”
The Crisis of Political Islam in Turkey and Iran
“There's been a kind of great evening out ideologically and a kind of fragmentation, not just in Iran, but even in other places.”
Beyond Ideology: The Future of Muslim Religiosity
Devji reflects on emerging spiritual trends in both the West and Muslim societies, suggesting a possible shift from ideological Islam toward more personal, esoteric, or theological forms of faith, signaling a return to older dimensions of religious life.
“If the communists are thinking about Marxism as an ideology, and the communist or Bolshevik state is an ideological state which is meant to do certain things and accomplish certain ends... an ideological state is not like that. It has very particular ends in mind and it's teleological in conception.”
“We are not going to see as people once imagined through modernization theory a kind of total and radical sea change where you move from so-called tradition which is marked by religious belief to if you will a so-called modern and secular world in which religious beliefs have vanished or are entirely absent.”
“It's not clear to me, but I'll be interested to see what happens because obviously we are not going to see as people once imagined through modernization theory a kind of total and radical sea change...”
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Faisal Devji
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Turkey
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William Armstrong
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Iran
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Waning Crescent
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Cold War
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Communism
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Islamic Republic of Iran
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Bolshevik Party
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Sayyid al-Alam Maududi
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