The Manager Who Used GHB Against His Employee _ The New Detectives

TruRed CRIME49mApril 14, 2026

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This episode of TruRed CRIME presents two chilling true crime cases that highlight the power of forensic science and investigative persistence. The first case centers on Patricia White, a woman who woke up naked in her boss Lorenzo Fial's apartment after blacking out following a drink that tasted salty. Suspicious of a date rape drug, Detective Catherine Kriskovic pursued evidence, ultimately confirming high levels of GHB in Patricia's system. Combined with forensic findings of internal injuries and matching DNA, the case built a compelling case for non-consensual rape. Fial was convicted and sentenced to 11 years in prison. The second case involves the mysterious death of two-and-a-half-year-old Mikey Carter in Coquille, Oregon, initially ruled an accidental choking. Assistant Deputy Medical Examiner Chris Karsher questioned the evidence, particularly the pristine condition of a cigarette wrapper in Mikey's throat. Through a simple experiment simulating saliva exposure, she concluded the wrapper hadn't been in the child's mouth long—suggesting foul play. Further investigation revealed Stacy Brown, Denise's boyfriend, had a violent history and was enraged by her affair. A polygraph confirmed his deception, and he eventually confessed to drowning Mikey in a bathtub before staging the scene to look like a choking. Brown was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to 25 years to life. Both stories underscore how intuition, science, and relentless inquiry can uncover the truth even when criminals try to hide behind deception and misdirection.

Key Takeaways
1

GHB, a date rape drug, can be undetectable after 12 hours but is identifiable through specialized toxicology testing.

2

Forensic evidence such as internal injuries and DNA can prove non-consensual sex even when memory is lost.

3

A seemingly minor detail—like a pristine cigarette wrapper stamp—can reveal the truth when subjected to scientific scrutiny.

4

Behavioral inconsistencies, polygraph results, and background checks are critical tools in uncovering hidden motives and lies.

5

Staging a crime scene does not erase the physical evidence; forensic science can expose the truth.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Sponsor: Shopify for Entrepreneurs

Charissa promotes Shopify as a reliable platform for entrepreneurs, emphasizing its ease of use, integrative features, and ability to free up time and resources for business growth.

2:00
8 min

The Case of Patricia White: A Rape Investigation in Long Beach

I'm Charissa and my advice to all entrepreneurs start with Shopify successfully. I use Shopify since the first day and the platform makes me no problem. I have many problems, but the platform is never one of them.

Highlight
10:00
15 min

Forensic Breakthrough: GHB Detection and DNA Evidence

The bruising on Patricia's cervix indicated she was not a willing participant. Internal abrasions and hemorrhaging also indicated forcible sodomy.

Highlight
25:00
15 min

The Trial and Conviction of Lorenzo Fial

The defense was never able to explain how Patricia White got GHB in her body. They were never able to explain how it was that Patricia White could accurately describe the feeling of being under the influence of GHB and the taste of GHB as tasting salty.

Highlight
40:00
20 min

The Mysterious Death of Mikey Carter: A Staged Accident?

Two-and-a-half-year-old Mikey Carter is found dead in his bed, ruled an accidental choking. But Assistant Deputy Medical Examiner Chris Karsher suspects foul play due to inconsistencies in the scene, particularly the intact cigarette wrapper in his throat.

High-Impact Quotes
The defense was never able to explain how Patricia White got GHB in her body. They were never able to explain how it was that Patricia White could accurately describe the feeling of being under the influence of GHB and the taste of GHB as tasting salty.
Detective Catherine Kriskovic26:47
Viral: 90.0
When I took it out of my mouth, the stamp was almost gone. All that told me at the time was that it wasn't in his mouth very long.
Chris Karsher37:46
Viral: 88.0
The bruising on Patricia's cervix indicated she was not a willing participant. Internal abrasions and hemorrhaging also indicated forcible sodomy.
Melinda Waddell12:59
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Charissa
Topics Discussed
Sexual Assault Investigation95%Child Death Investigation92%Forensic Toxicology90%Date Rape Drugs88%Criminal Motive and Opportunity87%Staged Crime Scenes85%Domestic Violence80%Polygraph Testing75%
People & Brands

Stacy Brown

person

16xNegative

Patricia White

person

15xPositive

Mikey Carter

person

14xNegative

Lorenzo Fial

person

12xNegative

Chris Karsher

person

12xPositive

GHB

other

10xNegative

Detective Catherine Kriskovic

person

10xPositive

Denise Carter

person

8xPositive

Melinda Waddell

person

8xPositive

Cellophane Cigarette Wrapper

other

8xNeutral

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