MARCH MADNESS OF LEARNING LIVE FROM SXSW EDU with AJ Gutierrez, Jasmine Maze, and Justin Serrano

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The future of education is being reshaped by a convergence of AI, human-centered design, and bold experimentation—yet the core challenge remains: how to center students in a system historically built for efficiency, not connection. In a high-energy panel at SXSW EDU, Mike Palmer and his co-panelists—AJ Gutierrez, Jasmine Mays, and Justin Serrano—debate the 'March Madness of Learning' trends, revealing a critical tension: while AI promises to revolutionize teaching and learning, its real power lies not in automation, but in amplifying human judgment. AJ argues that the most transformative shift isn’t adopting new tools, but asking deeper questions: What do we really know about our students? Why do we teach what we teach? The panel warns against 'AI slop'—mindless content generation—and instead champions 'productive distrust,' where skepticism becomes a tool for critical thinking. Jasmine emphasizes that AI should free teachers from administrative burdens, not add to them, creating space for the relational, interpretive, and moral work of teaching. Justin highlights the rise of 'outcomes-based contracting' in education, where districts now pay for measurable student gains, not just software access. The conversation culminates in a shared call to action: empower local districts with R&D capacity, invest in rapid-cycle evaluation, and treat AI not as a replacement, but as a thinking partner.

Key Takeaways
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Shift from measuring inputs to outcomes: districts are now using outcomes-based contracting, where 40% of payments depend on actual student gains, not just software access.

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High-impact tutoring delivers 2-3 years of academic growth in one year and is now a bipartisan, state-funded priority across Massachusetts, California, and New Mexico.

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AI should free teachers from administrative work, not add to it—its real value is creating time for human-centered work like mentoring and designing meaningful learning.

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Embrace 'productive distrust'—the ability to question AI-generated content without panic, using skepticism to strengthen critical thinking and media literacy.

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Build local R&D capacity in schools: empower districts with funding and tools for rapid-cycle experiments, not just waiting for slow randomized trials.

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Chapters
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10 min

Opening the March Madness of Learning Bracket

Mike Palmer kicks off the SXSW EDU panel with a nostalgic reflection on the podcast's history, from its 2019 debut to pandemic cancellations and a triumphant return. He introduces the 'Sweet 16 of Learning Trends' format, where each panelist submits four trends, and the audience votes for the 'Trend of the Year'.

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10 min

Justin Serrano: The Outcomes Economy & AI-Driven Procurement

Now you find basically contracts built 60% based on the services, goods, but 40% actually based on the expected and intended student outcomes that are supposed to be achieved with the product or services.

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10 min

AJ Gutierrez: High-Impact Tutoring as a National Movement

You can have anywhere from two to three years of growth in math in one year, which is pretty significant growth in a short amount of time.

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30:00
10 min

Jasmine Mays: AI as a Tool for Teacher Liberation

It's like, how do we remove the friction? Like, how can I do less administrative work? How can I do less of the translation work where the friction, not the productive struggle that really builds up our profession, but really holds us back?

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40:00
10 min

The Human-AI Interoperability Challenge

The panel confronts the paradox of AI: while it promises efficiency, it risks creating 'AI slop'—low-quality, mindless content. They warn against using AI to do more, and instead advocate for using it to do better: to protect original thinking, sharpen judgment, and create space for reflection and connection.

High-Impact Quotes
You can have anywhere from two to three years of growth in math in one year, which is pretty significant growth in a short amount of time.
AJ Gutierrez11:33
Viral: 88.0
Now you find basically contracts built 60% based on the services, goods, but 40% actually based on the expected and intended student outcomes that are supposed to be achieved with the product or services.
Justin Serrano8:46
Viral: 85.0
It's like, how do we remove the friction? Like, how can I do less administrative work? How can I do less of the translation work where the friction, not the productive struggle that really builds up our profession, but really holds us back?
Jasmine Mays17:11
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Host

Mike Palmer

Guests

AJ GutierrezJasmine MaysJustin Serrano
Topics Discussed
high-impact tutoring95%outcomes-based contracting90%ai for education88%teacher efficiency85%productive distrust80%local school innovation75%critical media literacy70%strategic optimism65%
People & Brands

AJ Gutierrez

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15xPositive

Jasmine Mays

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14xPositive

Justin Serrano

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13xPositive

Mike Palmer

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Saga Education

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8xPositive

Reinvention Lab

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5xPositive

Equal Opportunity Schools

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4xPositive

Teach for America

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The Fifth Element

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3xPositive

The Future of Tutoring

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