INTERVIEW | Make Money by Protecting Your Paycheck with Attorney Ryan
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Ryan Steiger, a former firefighter and workers' rights attorney, reveals how most people are unknowingly exploited at work due to a fundamental gap in education: no one teaches employees the rules of their own careers. In a powerful conversation with Travis, Ryan exposes systemic failures—from child labor violations in fast food franchises to churches requiring unpaid 'volunteer' hours that amount to wage theft. He argues that the American work ethic, rooted in Puritan values, glorifies suffering and overwork without delivering promised rewards. Despite being told to 'work hard and be grateful,' workers often end up sacrificing family, health, and financial stability for jobs that don’t value them. Ryan’s book, *Get It in Writing*, is a practical toolkit to reclaim power through documentation, negotiation, and legal knowledge—turning employees from passive workers into informed advocates. His journey from fire service to law, fueled by a toxic boss and personal burnout, underscores a radical truth: reinvention isn’t failure—it’s survival. By embracing lifelong learning and using free platforms like YouTube to educate, Ryan built a movement that empowers the working class not just to survive, but to thrive.
Document every work interaction—emails, texts, performance reviews—to build a legal paper trail that protects your rights.
Nonprofits and churches are not exempt from wage and hour laws; required 'volunteer' hours that replace paid work are illegal.
Child labor laws are routinely violated when teens are paid in gift cards for unpaid shifts—this is wage theft.
The belief that hard work automatically leads to reward is a myth; many workers are exploited without recognition or compensation.
If your boss says 'nonprofit' means labor laws don’t apply, they are lying—those laws apply to all employers.
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Introduction: The Hidden War Over Your Paycheck
“We don't talk about how to protect your career, how to protect yourself from a sudden termination, or how to negotiate for a good severance. These are questions that don't get answered a lot.”
The Education Gap: No One Taught Us the Rules of Work
Ryan explains how the U.S. education system prepares people to be obedient workers but never teaches them their legal rights in the workplace, leaving them vulnerable to exploitation.
Child Labor and Wage Theft in Fast Food Franchises
“That is completely unacceptable on so many levels. We're breaking child labor laws, overtime laws, payroll laws. Like there's so many violations there.”
The Myth of the 'Volunteer' Church Employee
“If someone is cleaning up, serving meals, handing out pamphlets... now it's starting to look like you're making them worker-free. Now it's not looking so much like religious practice and it's looking more like wage debt.”
The Puritan Work Ethic: Hard Work Has No Intrinsic Value
“Hard work has no intrinsic value. If you put an SUV in the mud and it spins its wheels and burns a bunch of gas and throws a bunch of black smoke in the air, it's working really hard. Is it accomplishing anything? Maybe some engine damage.”
“if you put an SUV in the mud and it spins its wheels and burns a bunch of gas and throws a bunch of black smoke in the air, it's working really hard. Is it accomplishing anything? Yeah. Maybe some engine”
“I never wanted to advertise. I wanted to be an educator first. I wanted to be someone you come to as a resource to know your rights.”
“If you see yourself as someone who's already arrived, I've already put in the work, you are going to stagnate.”
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Ryan Steiger
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Travis
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Get It in Writing
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YouTube
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Cal Fire
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TikTok
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GoHighLevel.com
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Paramount Plus
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