The Check-In with Kevin Barnes-of Montreal

Tour Stories/The Check-In with Joe Plummer29mMay 15, 2026

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Kevin Barnes of of Montreal joins Joe Plummer for a candid and introspective conversation about his new album, Ether Mead, set for release on June 5th via Polyvinyl. Barnes reflects on his move from Vermont to Brooklyn, the emotional undercurrents of heartbreak and personal reinvention that shaped the record, and his evolving approach to songwriting and collaboration. He discusses the album’s return to psych folk pop roots after recent electronic experiments, emphasizing the importance of spontaneity, collaboration with longtime touring musicians, and the therapeutic act of releasing emotional 'darkness into the ether.' Barnes also shares insights into his teaching experience at Bennington College, where he led a class titled 'Songwriting Crimes and Recording Atrocities,' encouraging creative risk-taking and embracing unpredictability. The episode closes with a heartfelt discussion about his daughter directing the music video for 'Already Dreaming,' highlighting the joy of creative family collaboration and the sincerity that comes from personal investment in artistic projects.

Key Takeaways
1

Embrace emotional honesty in songwriting—songs about relationships often reflect inner turmoil more than the other person.

2

Allow each album to organically shape itself rather than forcing a sound; let inspiration guide the process.

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Collaboration breathes life into music—working with familiar musicians fosters authenticity and connection.

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Create intentionally uncomfortable art: make something you don’t like at first—your future self may love it.

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The most powerful music videos come from personal investment and creative ownership, not just performance.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Sponsor: Kuma Coffee

Joe introduces Kuma Coffee, a Seattle-based roaster known for high-quality, ethically sourced beans and a new instant coffee line that’s a game-changer for touring musicians.

1:55
2 min

Sponsor: Isotope & DistroKid

Sponsors Isotope (audio restoration tools) and DistroKid (music distribution with Banzoogle and instant mastering) are highlighted with exclusive discount codes for listeners.

4:10
2 min

Kevin Barnes' Move to Brooklyn

Kevin shares his recent move from Vermont to Brooklyn, reflecting on the emotional catalyst of ending an eight-year relationship and seeking a fresh start in New York.

5:50
4 min

The Creative Process Behind Ether Mead

I was writing a lot of songs on acoustic guitar in my kitchen and just feeling that kind of vibe. And I was thinking, oh yeah, obviously I could go up into my little studio room and just start making it.

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10:00
5 min

Emotional Core: Heartbreak and Self-Reflection

Sometimes we're not really seeing a person as a human. We're just seeing them as a shape that we're filling in.

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High-Impact Quotes
I want to make something that I don't like... because if I just keep making things I like, then it's going to have like the same equality to it.
Kevin Barnes21:06
Viral: 90.0
Sometimes we're not really seeing a person as a human. We're just seeing them as a shape that we're filling in.
Kevin Barnes9:12
Viral: 85.0
The songs are about me processing my narcissism or whatever.
Kevin Barnes9:55
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Joe Plummer

Guest

Kevin Barnes
Topics Discussed
Emotional Authenticity in Songwriting95%Creative Process and Album Development90%Collaboration in Music Production85%Artistic Reinvention and Risk-Taking80%Parent-Child Creative Collaboration75%Teaching and Mentorship in Music70%The Role of Constraints in Creativity65%Music Video as Emotional Expression60%
People & Brands

Kevin Barnes

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Ether Mead

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of Montreal

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Kevin Barnes' Daughter

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Joe Plummer

person

5xPositive

Kuma Coffee

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4xPositive

Nethermead

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Polyvinyl

other

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DistroKid

brand

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Bennington College

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