TWiV 1315: Jabs for bats
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This Week in Virology episode 1315, 'Jabs for Bats,' delivers a comprehensive and thought-provoking exploration of zoonotic spillover risks and innovative public health strategies. The episode opens with a tribute to herpes virologist Bernard Roisman and a critical discussion of two landmark studies: one revealing that traded mammals are 1.5 times more likely to share pathogens with humans due to prolonged exposure in live markets, and another proposing 'ecological vaccination' of wild bats using engineered mosquitoes or saline traps. While the hosts acknowledge the scientific ingenuity of these approaches, they express significant caution—particularly regarding the ecological dangers of releasing genetically modified mosquitoes, which could travel far and infect unintended species. The saline trap method, by contrast, is seen as more contained and feasible. The episode also highlights the broader context of zoonotic risk, including habitat encroachment and underrepresented species like bats and rodents, underscoring the need for biosurveillance despite political and cultural hurdles. Listener contributions enrich the discussion, with insights on vaccine benefits beyond infectious disease—such as reduced dementia and cancer risk—and praise for science communication tools like Nextstrain, which provides real-time, accessible tracking of viral evolution. The hosts champion rigorous, equation-based science, echoing listener Fernando’s appreciation for Sean Carroll’s work, which uses mathematics to convey deep understanding rather than relying on oversimplified analogies. This commitment to substantive content is reinforced by a call to support independent bookstores via Bookshop.org and a celebration of long-term listener engagement and scientific literacy.
Wildlife trade significantly increases zoonotic spillover risk, with traded mammals 1.5 times more likely to share pathogens with humans, especially with prolonged exposure.
Ecological vaccination of bats via saline traps shows promise as a contained, low-risk method, while mosquito-based delivery poses unacceptable ecological and safety risks.
Vaccines may reduce long-term risks of dementia and cancer, offering a powerful new narrative to combat vaccine hesitancy.
Nextstrain provides invaluable, real-time visualization of pathogen evolution, enabling global outbreak tracking and public understanding.
Equations are essential for deep scientific comprehension—superior to analogies alone—and should be embraced in science communication.
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Introduction, Weather, and Tributes
The hosts open the episode with greetings, weather updates from Austin, Montreal, and Western Massachusetts, and a heartfelt tribute to Bernard Roisman, a pioneering herpes virologist who passed away at 96. They reflect on his life, career, and the profound impact he had on the field, sharing personal anecdotes and expressing regret for never having interviewed him.
Wildlife Trade and Zoonotic Spillover Risk
“Traded mammals are one and a half times as likely to share pathogens with humans compared to non-traded animals.”
Ecological Vaccination: Vaccinating Bats with Mosquitoes
“You can never release mosquitoes. I don't think that should ever be done because those mosquitoes can... travel a kilometer a day so they can get up to, let's say, 10K away where there can be humans.”
Listener Impact: Vaccine Benefits Beyond Infection
“Maybe the benefits of lowering the risk of cancer and dementia will promote vaccine uptake? This could be tested, I would think.”
Nextstrain: Real-Time Pathogen Evolution Tracking
“The website is beautiful. The way that it's – like if you click on core pathogens, if I click on dengue, it gives you all a – even the phylogenetic trees of like which dengue where, which Ebola where...”
“You can never release mosquitoes. I don't think that should ever be done because those mosquitoes can... travel a kilometer a day so they can get up to, let's say, 10K away where there can be humans.”
“Maybe the benefits of lowering the risk of cancer and dementia will promote vaccine uptake? This could be tested, I would think.”
“Traded mammals are one and a half times as likely to share pathogens with humans compared to non-traded animals.”
Hosts
Vincent Racaniello
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Alan Dove
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Rich Condit
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Angela Mingarelli
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Bernard Roisman
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Sean Carroll
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CITES
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swallow-tailed kite
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Fernando
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Bookshop.org
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