763: The $100 Million Restaurant Man with Kevin Boehm of Boka Restaurant Group

This Is TASTE1h 22mApril 20, 2026

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In this compelling episode of *This Is TASTE*, host Matt Rodbard sits down with Kevin Boehm, co-founder of the Boka Restaurant Group and author of the memoir *The Bottomless Cup*, to explore the highs and lows of building one of Chicago’s most celebrated restaurant empires. Boehm shares candidly about his journey from sleeping in his car and battling depression and alcoholism to becoming a James Beard Award-winning restaurateur who now oversees seven of the top 100 highest-grossing restaurants in the U.S. He discusses the strategic model behind Boka’s success—partnering with visionary chefs as co-owners to foster innovation and long-term engagement—while also revealing the emotional core of his memoir: a story of trauma, identity, and redemption. The conversation dives into the art of restaurant timing, the importance of staff development, and the power of small gestures like the Black Card program to build loyalty. Later, Rodbard speaks with Washington, D.C. chef Fabio Trabocchi, who recounts his global culinary journey from Moscow to London and his deep roots in Italy’s lesser-known Marche region. Trabocchi reflects on the unique challenges and privileges of running a high-profile restaurant on Pennsylvania Avenue, where politics, privacy, and power dynamics shape every dining experience. Both guests offer profound insights into leadership, resilience, and the soul of hospitality in a volatile industry.

Key Takeaways
1

The sweet spot for dining at a restaurant is around 16 months old—when the team has settled and the concept is refined.

2

True loyalty comes from making guests feel seen and valued, not just through discounts but through personalized recognition and access.

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Staff retention is driven by creating clear pathways for growth—Boka’s model promotes internal mobility and leadership development.

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The restaurant industry thrives on innovation, but avoiding copycat trends is crucial; originality and authenticity win long-term.

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Personal healing and professional success are deeply intertwined—Boehm’s memoir reveals how sobriety and therapy transformed his life.

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Chapters
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The Sweet Spot of a Restaurant: 16 Months Old

And to me, it's like 16 months old.

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Boka’s Model: Partnerships Over Ownership

When we looked at the landscape in like 2002, 2003, it was like, you know, you had John George and Danielle and Wolfgang and Batali and all these people where there were a lot of eggs in one basket.

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10 min

The Black Card Program: Making Guests Feel Seen

There's no discounts with it. It is a card with a phone number and an email address on it, and it gives you access to any of our restaurants that are booked, and we'll figure out how to slide you in.

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From Trauma to Triumph: Kevin Boehm’s Memoir

It took me 51 years to be a happy person. And that's way too long to wait to be happy.

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The Power of Pre-Shift: Storytelling as Leadership

Boehm shares his passion for pre-shift meetings—not just for operations, but as a way to inspire teams with stories, drawing parallels between restaurant culture and music covers.

High-Impact Quotes
I've had the happiest three years of my life. I always thought that I would find happiness in a crowded place, in a big stadium of people or a packed restaurant. And I actually found it sitting in my house writing my book, listening to Miles Davis and drinking green tea one night all alone.
Kevin Boehm28:39
Viral: 95.0
It took me 51 years to be a happy person. And that's way too long to wait to be happy.
Kevin Boehm27:59
Viral: 92.0
We're all doing cover versions. What are you going to do to make your cover version unique?
Kevin Boehm38:10
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Matt Rodbard

Guests

Kevin BoehmFabio Trabocchi
Topics Discussed
personal trauma and redemption in memoirs92%restaurant timing and peak performance90%alcohol, sobriety, and mental health in hospitality90%chef partnerships and ownership models88%political dining and privacy in D.C.87%guest loyalty and recognition programs85%staff development and career growth83%the future of dining: non-alcoholic and psychedelic experiences75%
People & Brands

Kevin Boehm

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120xPositive

Boka Restaurant Group

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45xPositive

Fabio Trabocchi

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D.C.

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30xPositive

The Bottomless Cup

book

25xPositive

Fiola

other

18xPositive

Marche region

place

15xPositive

The Bear

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12xPositive

Moscow

place

10xNeutral

Wayfair

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8xNeutral

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