EP. 861: A NEW HOPE FOR CALIFORNIA: BUTCH WARE
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In this pivotal episode of *This is Revolution Podcast*, host Jason Miles and co-host Pascal Robert welcome Dr. Butch Ware, a groundbreaking independent gubernatorial candidate in California, as the first major political figure of his kind on the show. Ware, a Black Muslim academic and Green Party activist, is running to challenge the entrenched two-party duopoly in a state where Democrats are struggling to unify behind a single candidate. Despite facing a coordinated legal campaign to remove him from the ballot—alleging minor tax return redaction errors—Ware argues the effort is a political hit orchestrated by the Democratic establishment out of fear of his rising popularity. He highlights that 63% of California voters now believe a third party is needed, and his campaign has already won grassroots debates and forums against corporate-backed candidates. Ware’s platform centers on universal single-payer healthcare, housing-first policies, anti-imperialism, divestment from war profiteers, and protection of immigrant and queer communities. He frames his candidacy as a moral and structural rebellion against a system that prioritizes billionaires and militarism over people. Even if blocked from the ballot, he vows to run as a write-in candidate, citing historical precedent and a growing base of support across ideological lines. The episode closes with a powerful call to action: register as a Green, demand inclusion in debates, and use the ballot as a revolutionary tool.
The ballot is a weapon of war—voting is revolutionary resistance.
California’s political crisis stems from a two-party duopoly that fears independent voices like Butch Ware.
Ware’s campaign is built on grassroots organizing, not corporate funding, and has already won key debates against mainstream candidates.
Even if removed from the ballot, a write-in campaign can bring Ware back—historical precedent shows it’s possible.
Universal healthcare, housing-first policies, and anti-imperialism are not radical—they’re mainstream priorities in California.
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The Rise of a Third Party Threat in California
“The ballot is a weapon of war as effective or more effective than a bullet.”
The Legal Hit: How the System Tried to Silence Ware
“They had the returns in their possession the whole time. It's not our job to collate it.”
The Power of the People: Grassroots Victory in Debates
“They know that all of those independents and centrists... are going to all want to vote Bush.”
The Anti-Imperialist Platform: From Gaza to Silicon Valley
Ware connects California’s domestic policy to global justice. He argues that Californians reject using their tax dollars to fund war machines and support genocidal regimes. He cites widespread divestment efforts by universities and counties, and positions himself as a leader in a movement to redirect state funds from military contractors to social needs like housing, healthcare, and education.
Why Ware Is the Most Dangerous Man in America
“I'm the most dangerous man on the planet because I can win the California primary right now.”
“The ballot is a weapon of war as effective or more effective than a bullet.”
“They want you broken down, conditioned in helplessness. Because as soon as you unlock the chains that they have on your political imagination, then victory becomes not just possible but inevitable.”
“They had the returns in their possession the whole time. It's not our job to collate it.”
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