Garbage In, Garbage Out: The Data Problem Hiding Inside Your AI Strategy - with Caroline Jarrett

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In this episode of 'This is HCD', host Gerry Scullion welcomes Caroline Jarrett, a renowned forms and survey design expert, to discuss the critical but often overlooked issue of data quality in AI strategy. Drawing from her three-decade career in human-centered design, Jarrett emphasizes that 'garbage in, garbage out' isn't just a cliché—it's a systemic failure in how organizations treat data, especially in forms and surveys. She argues that forms are the only compulsory part of any service, yet they're frequently designed without regard for usability, accuracy, or error rates. Jarrett reveals that many organizations don't even know their own error rates, and that AI adoption without fixing foundational data problems risks amplifying existing flaws. She introduces a framework of six types of service errors—from wrong results to delayed impacts—and advocates for measuring data quality through visualization, analytics, and observational research. The conversation underscores the urgent need for designers to lead data quality conversations before AI is implemented at scale. Key takeaways include: 1) Forms are the most visible and compulsory part of any service, yet are often poorly designed; 2) Organizations must measure and understand their error rates before adopting AI; 3) Data quality issues like inconsistent entries, missing values, and invalid inputs (e.g., apostrophes in names) are widespread and systemic; 4) Visualizing data helps designers spot anomalies and inconsistencies more effectively than raw numbers; 5) AI should not be used to 'fix' bad data—it will only magnify it. Jarrett concludes by urging designers to use the promise of AI as a lever to push for better data hygiene, turning technical debt into strategic advantage.

Key Takeaways
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Forms are the only compulsory part of any service and must be designed for accuracy and usability.

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Organizations often don’t know their own error rates, making AI implementation risky.

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AI amplifies data flaws—garbage in leads to garbage out, especially when data is inconsistent or invalid.

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Visualizing data helps designers detect anomalies and inconsistencies more effectively than numbers alone.

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Use the AI conversation as a lever to demand better data quality and error measurement across organizations.

Chapters
0:00
5 min

Introduction: The Hidden Data Crisis in AI

What's the point of plugging your organisation into AI if the data you're feeding it is already broken?

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4:59
8 min

Caroline Jarrett’s Journey: From Tax Forms to Data Quality

Jarrett shares her career path, beginning with a 1992 project to scan tax forms using early AI. She recounts how people wrote 'please see letter attached' on forms—something AI still can't process—sparking her lifelong focus on designing for data accuracy.

12:30
13 min

Forms as the Compulsory Core of Services

The forms are the little peaks that people actually see. That's the only compulsory part.

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25:00
13 min

AI’s Hidden Risks: From Autocorrect to AI-Generated Mistakes

You really want to do that? Okay AI, write my will? Really?

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38:20
15 min

Measuring Error: The Missing Metric in Organizations

I don't know if you've heard, but we had a scandal recently which affected people in Northern Ireland... because the systems don't speak to each other.

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High-Impact Quotes
I don't know if you've heard, but we had a scandal recently which affected people in Northern Ireland... because the systems don't speak to each other.
Caroline Jarrett28:30
Viral: 92.0
What's the point of plugging your organisation into AI if the data you're feeding it is already broken?
Gerry Scullion1:29
Viral: 90.0
You really want to do that? Okay AI, write my will? Really?
Caroline Jarrett17:41
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Gerry Scullion

Guest

Caroline Jarrett
Topics Discussed
data quality95%forms design90%ai and data hygiene88%error rate measurement85%user experience in government services80%survey methodology75%visualizing data70%agentic ai risks65%
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Caroline Jarrett

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120xPositive

Gerry Scullion

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Gerry Gaffney

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Northern Ireland

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Lou Rosenfeld

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HMRC

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Rosenfeld Media

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3xPositive

Republic of Ireland

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Open University

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Leighton Buzzard

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