Rookie Years in Milwaukee PD: Jeffery Dahmer, Riots, Worst Districts
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In this gripping episode of *Things Police See: Firsthand Accounts*, host Steve Gould welcomes veteran Milwaukee Police Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell, whose new book *Police Stories: The Rookie Years* offers a raw, unfiltered look at his early days on the force. O'Donnell recounts his time in Milwaukee’s most volatile districts, where gunfire was a nightly backdrop and the line between victim and perpetrator often blurred. He shares harrowing stories from his rookie year, including nearly shooting a suspect during a fatal encounter, surviving a chaotic bar shootout that left three dead, and confronting a man threatening his child with a rifle during a custody dispute. The episode also dives into the infamous Jeffrey Dahmer investigation, revealing the psychological toll on detectives and the city’s shock at the crimes. O'Donnell reflects on the 2016 Milwaukee riots, the mismanagement of the police response, and the importance of leadership, training, and decisive action in riot control. With vivid storytelling, he exposes the emotional weight of policing, the absurdity of some calls, and the quiet triumphs of serving a slower, more cooperative district later in his career. The episode is a powerful testament to the complexity, danger, and humanity of police work. Key takeaways include: 1) Police work in high-crime areas is often a constant state of crisis, with gunfire treated as background noise; 2) The psychological toll of confronting evil—like Dahmer—can haunt officers for life; 3) Mismanagement during civil unrest, such as delayed body removal, can escalate violence; 4) Tactical presence and decisive action are crucial in riot control, not passive observation; 5) Officers often face absurd or emotionally charged calls that test their judgment and humanity; 6) Leadership failures, like those seen in the 2016 riots, can have devastating consequences; 7) Even in the most chaotic situations, calm, creative thinking—like O'Donnell’s partner using humor to de-escalate a hostage situation—can prevent tragedy; 8) The value of storytelling in policing: sharing real experiences helps others understand the unseen burdens of the job.
Gunfire in Milwaukee’s worst districts was so common it became background noise, with officers learning to ignore it unless it was dangerously close.
The Jeffrey Dahmer investigation revealed deep trauma for detectives and exposed systemic failures, including police returning a naked teen to Dahmer due to misunderstanding.
Mismanagement of the 2016 Milwaukee riots—especially the prolonged delay in removing a body—led to rapid escalation and widespread destruction.
Decisive, forceful action during civil unrest is more effective than passive waiting; arresting key agitators quickly can break the momentum of a riot.
Officers often face bizarre, emotionally charged calls—like a man threatening his child with a rifle during a custody dispute—that require calm, creative de-escalation.
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
Host Steve Gould welcomes listeners to *Things Police See*, introduces the episode’s guest Patrick O'Donnell, a veteran Milwaukee PD sergeant and author, and sets the tone for a deep dive into his rookie years.
Rookie Years in Milwaukee’s Most Dangerous Districts
“I thought the whole city was like this. I didn't live there. I wasn't from there, you know? And I'm like, Whoa, Hey, this is kind of crazy, but it's through a rookie's eyes.”
The Jeffrey Dahmer Investigation and Its Aftermath
“There was a naked Asian 16 year old boy that was running down the street... And the cops gave him back to Dahmer. Oh, I never heard that. That's crazy.”
The 2016 Milwaukee Riots: A Mismanaged Crisis
“If you would have arrested everyone very quickly and just taken care of business, it would have stopped right there.”
The Blues Oasis Bar Shootout: A Night of Chaos
“I opened the door and I almost trip on a dead body that's half in the gutter... He was just drinking a bud.”
“I hate overtime. You hear those sirens in the background. You could hear sirens in the background. That's our SWAT team. There's going to be negotiators. This is going to be an all day effing affair. I don't want to be here all day. Why don't you be a man? Stop being a pussy, put the rifle down, stand up so I can handcuff you and get this over with.”
“I opened the door and I almost trip on a dead body that's half in the gutter... He was just drinking a bud.”
“There was a naked Asian 16 year old boy that was running down the street... And the cops gave him back to Dahmer. Oh, I never heard that. That's crazy.”
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Patrick O'Donnell
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Jeffrey Dahmer
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2016 Milwaukee Riots
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Steve Gould
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Blues Oasis Tavern
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FBI
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ShotSpotter
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