Between two Irans

The World and Everything In It30mApril 25, 2026

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In this powerful special edition of The World and Everything in It, host Myrna Brown interviews David Nassar, an Iranian-born Christian pastor, author, and refugee whose life was upended by the 1979 Iranian Revolution. As a nine-year-old, Nassar witnessed the violent upheaval of his homeland, including his father being dragged from their home and a near-execution at school—all in the name of religion. Fleeing Iran with his family, he found refuge in America, where he endured isolation, bullying, and emotional neglect as a foreigner in Texas. His journey toward faith began not through doctrine, but through the quiet acts of kindness from Christians who served in his father’s restaurant, ultimately leading to his conversion in high school. Over time, his entire family embraced Christianity, a spiritual transformation Nassar sees as the fruit of the very revolution that uprooted them. Now, decades later, he watches with hope as Iran faces new unrest, believing that God is using current events to awaken hearts to the gospel—especially among young Iranians. Nassar shares a prophetic vision of a future Iran where thousands worship God in a soccer stadium, singing worship songs in Farsi, and he expresses a deep calling to serve there, not as a leader, but as a humble servant. He concludes with a passionate defense of American citizenship as a gift, not a right, and calls for a balanced, compassionate approach to immigration rooted in gratitude and shared values. Key takeaways include: 1) God can redeem even the most traumatic events for good; 2) Acts of quiet service often plant the seeds of transformation; 3) True belonging comes not from fitting in, but from being seen and valued; 4) The gospel can flourish in the most unexpected places, especially during times of crisis; 5) National identity and citizenship should be honored with humility, not entitlement; 6) The most powerful voices for change may come from the next generation; 7) Prayer and faith can shape history in ways we cannot yet see; 8) Compassion and truth must walk hand in hand in public discourse.

Key Takeaways
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God can redeem even the most traumatic events for good

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Acts of quiet service often plant the seeds of transformation

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True belonging comes not from fitting in, but from being seen and valued

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The gospel can flourish in the most unexpected places, especially during times of crisis

5

National identity and citizenship should be honored with humility, not entitlement

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introduction: A Life Between Two Irans

I look back and see how even then he was making himself shown and known in the slightest sense to us.

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2:20
8 min

Childhood in Revolution: Terror and Faith

Nassar recounts his traumatic childhood in Iran, including being nearly executed at school and witnessing his father’s arrest. He describes how these events shattered his faith, leading him to hate God, but also how God’s grace began to work even in those moments of fear and violence.

10:00
8 min

Exile and the Pain of Belonging

The family’s escape to Europe and eventual settlement in Killeen, Texas, brings new struggles. Nassar shares the emotional toll of being ignored, bullied, and invisible in a culture that didn’t welcome him, highlighting how exclusion can be a form of quiet terrorism.

18:00
7 min

The Turning Point: From Sellout to Savior

What good is it for a man to gain the whole world but to forfeit his soul?

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25:00
10 min

Faith in the Family: The Fruit of the Revolution

The fruit of something so tragic was that God didn't waste it.

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High-Impact Quotes
I had a vision of a stadium singing Holy Forever in Farsi in Iran. I've already seen a stadium in Nashville singing it in Farsi.
David Nassar21:59
Viral: 92.0
What good is it for a man to gain the whole world but to forfeit his soul?
David Nassar11:55
Viral: 90.0
The fruit of something so tragic was that God didn't waste it.
David Nassar17:20
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Myrna Brown

Guest

David Nassar
Topics Discussed
Iranian Revolution and Its Aftermath95%Prophetic Vision and Hope93%Faith in the Midst of Trauma90%Spiritual Awakening in Families88%Immigration and National Identity85%The Role of Quiet Service82%Christian Witness in Secular Society80%Cultural Belonging and Exclusion78%
People & Brands

David Nassar

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25xPositive

Iran

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22xMixed

Iranian Revolution

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18xNeutral

United States

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15xPositive

Christianity

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14xPositive

Myrna Brown

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12xPositive

Islam

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8xNeutral

Farsi

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6xNeutral

American Citizenship

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6xPositive

Shades Mountain Baptist Church

organization

5xPositive

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