Women: Called. Chosen. Disruptive
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The Upset Podcast's Women's History Month episode centers on a powerful conversation with three remarkable women—Sakima Rhodes, Dr. Cheryl Chavers, and Janae Johnson—highlighting their journeys as women called, chosen, and disruptive in faith, leadership, and social justice. The panel explores themes of divine calling, navigating systemic barriers as Black women in male-dominated spaces, the importance of stillness and rest in a hustle culture, and the transformative power of sisterhood and mentorship. They reflect on personal calling, the emotional toll of advocacy, and the need for an abundance mindset over scarcity in leadership. The discussion also touches on the underreporting of domestic violence in Black communities, the pressure to conform to societal checklists of womanhood, and the necessity of allowing Black women space to be angry without being labeled difficult. The episode closes with a hopeful vision for the next generation of bold, unapologetic young women who are already creating change and demanding equity. Key takeaways include: 1) Stillness is not laziness—it’s a strategic spiritual practice for strength and clarity; 2) Black women’s anger is valid and can be channeled into righteous action; 3) Leadership is not a zero-sum game—there’s room for all at the table; 4) Rest and boundaries are essential for sustainable impact; 5) Mentorship creates a generational ripple effect of empowerment; 6) Women’s purpose is not defined by marriage, children, or career milestones but by God’s unique calling; 7) The next generation is already leading—support their dreams without quenching their fire; 8) True sisterhood means lifting others up, not gatekeeping opportunities.
Stillness is not a stall tactic—it’s a strategic spiritual practice for strength and clarity.
Black women’s anger is valid and can be channeled into righteous action.
Leadership is not a zero-sum game—there’s room for all at the table.
Rest and boundaries are essential for sustainable impact.
Mentorship creates a generational ripple effect of empowerment.
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Welcome & Opening Reflections
The hosts welcome listeners back after a month-long break, set the tone with a spiritual and cultural reflection on Palm Sunday, acknowledge recent global events including the ODU shooting and the Michigan synagogue attack, and introduce the theme of Women’s History Month with a focus on women called, chosen, and disruptive.
The Weight of War & Systemic Injustice
The hosts discuss the ongoing war between Iran and Israel, its global economic ripple effects including oil and currency shifts, and the tragic impact of violence in communities like Norfolk, Virginia, and West Bloomfield, Michigan. They reflect on how war and systemic injustice disproportionately affect everyday lives and question the moral justification for military intervention.
The Target Boycott & Leadership Challenges
The hosts reflect on the controversial end of the Target boycott led by Pastor Jamal Bryant, highlighting the tension between grassroots activism and national leadership. They discuss the importance of unity, the challenges of Black leadership fragmentation, and the need for consistent, intentional action—even if only one company is boycotted.
Introducing the Panel: Women Called & Chosen
“We’re not just here to be quiet. We’re here to be disruptive in a good way—good trouble.”
Divine Calling & Life Pivots
“God opened a door when I thought I had to go home. That’s how my calling began.”
“My Jesus flipped tables. We can flip tables by speaking up—without starting a war.”
“Stillness is not a stall tactic. It is your strategy.”
“Your win is my win. There’s enough sky for all of us to shine.”
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Sakima Rhodes
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Janae Johnson
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Dr. Cheryl Chavers
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Kenan
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GP
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Target
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Pastor Jamal Bryant
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ODU Shooting
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Michigan Synagogue Attack
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Iran
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