Did Jesus Torture People? The Governor of Kentucky Says He Did Ep-2642
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The Todd Herman Show episode titled 'Did Jesus Torture People? The Governor of Kentucky Says He Did' confronts a controversial statement by Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear, who claimed that conversion therapy is torture and equated it to Jesus' method of teaching. Host Todd Herman refutes this assertion, arguing that Jesus never tortured anyone—his teachings were rooted in dialogue, questioning, and spiritual guidance, not coercion or harm. Herman uses a real-life example of a child therapist helping a gender-confused boy through conversation to illustrate that 'conversion therapy' as commonly understood (shock treatment) is not what happens in compassionate, faith-based counseling. He contrasts this with what he calls 'spiritual capture'—a condition he attributes to Beshear and others who promote policies he views as dangerous to children, such as gender-affirming care and mixed-sex overnight programs in schools. Herman warns of a broader cultural panic fueled by fearmongering, citing false claims about Olympic regulations, bathroom laws, and medical bans. He emphasizes that fear is not from God and calls listeners to discernment, truth, and spiritual clarity, urging them to reject narratives that demonize natural gender identity and instead trust in God's design. The episode blends theological argument, cultural critique, and personal testimony to warn against the normalization of sin and the manipulation of children through ideology.
Jesus did not torture people—his teaching was through conversation, not coercion.
Talking to children about gender identity is not conversion therapy; it's compassionate dialogue.
Fear of non-existent threats (e.g., forced medical procedures on children) is a spiritual tactic used by the 'prince of the air'.
The term 'conversion therapy' is being weaponized to describe normal therapeutic conversations.
Policies like mixed-sex overnight camps and gender-affirming care are not inherently harmful when properly supervised.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Governor’s Claim: Jesus Tortured Kids?
“The governor of Kentucky says Jesus Christ tortures kids. We'll talk about this all with the help of God Almighty.”
Debunking the 'Jesus Torture' Narrative
Herman dismantles the idea that Jesus tortured people by analyzing His teaching methods—questioning, dialogue, and confrontation—using Peter’s rebuke as the harshest thing Jesus ever said. He argues that spiritual conversation is not torture.
The Real 'Conversion Therapy': Pornography and Exploitation
“That is conversion therapy. It is converting a boy's brain to sit and talk with a kid, as happened with my friend who told me the story of his molestation...”
Oregon School Scandal: Mixed-Sex Overnight Camps
“Look what happens when you pretend to be a girl. You get to stand there fully clothed in a position of relative power, watching girls undress in front of you...”
The Iowa Library Porn Book Scandal
“This book is wholly inappropriate for children 11 to 14 years old. It doesn't just discuss identity. It delves into explicit details about homosexual acts...”
“There's an expiration date on grace. We don't know when, but there is.”
“The governor of Kentucky says Jesus Christ tortures kids. We'll talk about this all with the help of God Almighty.”
“He created rote legislation and push legislation that protects sex offenders who have same-sex activity with minors.”
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Scott Wiener
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Jenna Ellis
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