Social media ban for children and Big Tech’s Big Tobacco moment
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This episode of The Times Tech Podcast explores a pivotal moment in the ongoing battle to hold Big Tech accountable for the design and impact of social media platforms, particularly on children. Two landmark court rulings in California and New Mexico found Meta and YouTube guilty of creating addictive products through manipulative design, marking a potential turning point akin to the historic Big Tobacco settlements of the 1990s. The verdicts shift focus from user behavior to corporate responsibility, emphasizing that features like infinite scroll, dopamine-driven rewards, and algorithmic nudges are intentionally engineered to maximize engagement—regardless of harm. The discussion features Baroness Violet Kidron, a leading digital rights advocate who has campaigned for over a decade on child safety online. She underscores that the real issue isn't content, but the design of platforms that treat children as equals to adults, violating their developmental needs. Despite progress like the UK’s Age-Appropriate Design Code, enforcement has waned, and new threats like AI chatbots are compounding the risks. The episode concludes with a call for urgent, proactive regulation—what Kidron calls 'minimum viable policy'—to prevent further generational harm before it’s too late.
Social media platforms are being held legally accountable for addictive design, not just content, marking a shift from blaming users to holding companies responsible.
The Age-Appropriate Design Code, pioneered in the UK, is a powerful regulatory tool that mandates privacy and safety by default for children under 18.
The analogy to Big Tobacco is apt: internal evidence of harm, public denial, and eventual legal reckoning are now unfolding in the tech sector.
AI and chatbots present new, unregulated risks to children, demanding faster regulatory action than traditional 'white paper' processes allow.
A ban on social media for minors should target companies that fail to protect children, not children themselves—access should be conditional on safety.
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The Dawn of a New Era in Tech Accountability
The episode opens with a dramatic tone, setting the stage for a potential turning point in tech history, where social media companies face legal consequences for designing addictive products.
Landmark Court Rulings: Big Tech Loses in California and New Mexico
“The way these things are designed is the problem. And that's why this is a big deal.”
From Tobacco to Tech: The Parallel Legal Battle
“It suddenly becomes about liability, about responsibility, about corporate behavior.”
Baroness Kidron: The Long Fight for Child Safety Online
“If you treat all users as if they're equal, you treat a child as if they're adult. And that is messing them up.”
The Age-Appropriate Design Code: A Blueprint for Change
The UK’s 2020 Age-Appropriate Design Code is examined as a groundbreaking regulatory framework that mandates privacy and safety by default for children under 18.
“It's never too late. These things are engineered products and actually we must not stop until those products are actually categorized as products and they're liable for the harm that they actually cause.”
“If you treat all users as if they're equal, you treat a child as if they're adult. And that is messing them up.”
“The way these things are designed is the problem. And that's why this is a big deal.”
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