John Spencer: US can force open Strait of Hormuz if it decides to
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In this episode of The Times of Israel Daily Briefing, host Laser Berman engages military strategist John Spencer to assess the aftermath of a 39-day conflict involving Israel and the United States against Iran. The conversation centers on whether the war constitutes a victory, with Spencer cautioning against premature judgments amid ongoing ceasefire negotiations. While U.S. and Israeli officials claim significant military achievements—such as the destruction of 80% of Iran’s air defense, 90% of its navy, and major missile infrastructure—Spencer argues that victory cannot be declared until strategic goals are fully met and the post-war settlement is realized. He highlights the lack of clarity around Iran’s leadership, the ambiguity of negotiated terms, and the risk of repeating past patterns where military success is undermined by political compromises. Spencer also debunks the myth that the U.S. lacked plans to open the Strait of Hormuz, asserting that such scenarios have been rehearsed for years. He critiques Iran’s strategy of attacking multiple nations simultaneously as counterproductive, which instead validated the necessity of the operation. Looking ahead, Spencer emphasizes that the U.S. and Israel hold leverage through economic sanctions and the control of Iran’s nuclear program, while cautioning that Iran may seek survival over victory. The episode concludes with a forward-looking discussion on the deepened military alliance between the U.S. and Israel, which Spencer views as a transformative development with long-term strategic, technological, and geopolitical benefits.
Victory in war cannot be declared until the post-conflict settlement is achieved and strategic goals are fully realized.
Iran’s strategy of attacking multiple nations simultaneously backfired, validating the necessity of the U.S.-Israel operation.
The U.S. military has long-standing, detailed plans for securing the Strait of Hormuz—contrary to claims of unpreparedness.
The U.S. and Israel hold significant leverage in negotiations, particularly over Iran’s nuclear program and economic recovery.
The deep military integration between the U.S. and Israel represents a historic alliance with lasting strategic and technological benefits.
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Introduction: A War Without a Clear End
Host Laser Berman sets the stage for a nuanced discussion on the aftermath of a 39-day war between Israel, the U.S., and Iran, emphasizing the uncertainty of victory amid ongoing ceasefire talks and shifting narratives.
Assessing the Claims of Victory
“You can't make an assessment at this moment. We can, which I think would be important to tally what is should be observable facts.”
The Myth of Unpreparedness: The Strait of Hormuz
“It's just ignorance. Not to offend any guests you might have, but if somebody says that the U.S. military with Israel planning side by side... didn't plan for things like the Strait of Hormuz, I think it's just fantasy.”
Iran’s Strategic Miscalculation
“It's almost like they took an Israeli approach to the United States. So they took this approach of if we force enough international condemnation... the United States would be forced to stop.”
The Limits of Military Success
Spencer warns that tactical dominance does not guarantee strategic victory, citing past patterns in Gaza and Lebanon where military gains were eroded by political compromises and lack of finality.
“It's just ignorance. Not to offend any guests you might have, but if somebody says that the U.S. military with Israel planning side by side... didn't plan for things like the Strait of Hormuz, I think it's just fantasy.”
“The regime wasn't strong before this war. As you know, the regime close to falling economically through its own devices... They were literally planning to move Tehran because they couldn't bring water.”
“You can't make an assessment at this moment. We can, which I think would be important to tally what is should be observable facts.”
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