USA Today’s Susan Page on Queen Elizabeth’s Legacy [Extended Interview]

The Takeout with Major Garrett28mApril 18, 2026

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In this extended interview, USA Today's Susan Page discusses her book 'The Queen and Her Presidents,' exploring Queen Elizabeth II's enduring legacy as a master of soft power and quiet diplomacy across seven decades of global transformation. Page reveals previously unreported anecdotes, including a private phone call from the Queen to Donald Trump after the controversial leak of British ambassador memos, where she subtly conveyed her disapproval without direct criticism. She highlights how the Queen, despite lacking formal political power, wielded immense influence through personal relationships with American presidents—from Reagan and Obama to Clinton and Nixon—often smoothing diplomatic tensions behind the scenes. Page emphasizes the Queen’s unique ability to navigate shifting world orders, from the decline of the British Empire to the rise of the U.S. as a global leader, while maintaining dignity and emotional intelligence. The conversation also touches on pivotal moments like the Suez Crisis, the Falklands War, and the Queen’s complex relationship with Jimmy Carter, whose accidental lip kiss became a lasting point of personal offense. Ultimately, Page argues that the enduring fascination Americans have with the monarchy stems from a deep psychological kinship with Britain, rooted in shared history and identity, even as the U.S. prides itself on independence.

Key Takeaways
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The Queen used soft power—empathy, personal connection, and subtle influence—to resolve diplomatic tensions without overt political action.

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Her ability to maintain relationships across generations and ideologies, from Nixon to Obama, demonstrates emotional intelligence as a form of leadership.

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Even without formal authority, she shaped global events through behind-the-scenes diplomacy, such as during the Falklands War and Northern Ireland peace efforts.

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The U.S. fascination with the monarchy reflects a complex psychological bond with Britain—rooted in rebellion yet sustained by admiration and shared cultural heritage.

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The Queen’s legacy lies not in grand declarations, but in consistency, grace, and the quiet art of making others feel seen and respected.

Chapters
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5 min

The Queen’s Hidden Influence: A New Perspective

She apologized. Well, she didn't exactly apologize, but she thought he was a fool. She didn't say he was a fool, but...

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5:00
5 min

Soft Power in Action: The Queen as Diplomat

If she had not been born into royalty, she could have been a diplomat or a politician. Since she was born into royalty, she had to be both without ever seeming to be either.

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10:00
5 min

The Suez Crisis and the Birth of a Diplomatic Mindset

The Queen’s first major diplomatic mission—her 1957 visit to the U.S. after the Suez Crisis—revealed her ability to repair strained relations between allies, proving that soft power could matter more than military or political leverage.

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5 min

The Falklands War and the Power of Personal Connection

It is hard to imagine a friendly horseback ride through Windsor Park if this issue is not resolved.

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5 min

The Queen’s Personal Encounters with American Leaders

Page shares lesser-known moments, including the Queen meeting Lyndon Johnson at a state dinner and her subtle but profound advice to Jacqueline Kennedy about enduring public scrutiny.

High-Impact Quotes
If she had not been born into royalty, she could have been a diplomat or a politician. Since she was born into royalty, she had to be both without ever seeming to be either.
Susan Page1:27
Viral: 90.0
The people who waged the revolution were once British subjects, proud, honorable, loyal British subjects. And I don't think we can ever get that out of our bloodstream.
Susan Page25:12
Viral: 88.0
She apologized. Well, she didn't exactly apologize, but she thought he was a fool. She didn't say he was a fool, but...
Susan Page0:41
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Major Garrett

Guest

Susan Page
Topics Discussed
Soft Power95%Queen Elizabeth II's Legacy90%Presidential Relationships with the Queen88%U.S.-U.K. Diplomatic Relations85%Behind-the-Scenes Diplomacy80%American Fascination with Monarchy75%Historical Moments in Royal History70%Media and Archival Research60%
People & Brands

Queen Elizabeth II

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42xPositive

Susan Page

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15xPositive

Bill Clinton

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6xMixed

Donald Trump

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6xNeutral

Barack Obama

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5xPositive

Ronald Reagan

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4xPositive

Suez Crisis

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4xNeutral

Jimmy Carter

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3xNegative

Richard Nixon

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3xNeutral

Jacqueline Kennedy

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3xPositive

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