The 8-Figure Open Source SaaS Playbook
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Yves Concevoy, founder of Teleport, reveals how he built an eight-figure SaaS company by starting with a free, open-source tool meant only as a lead magnet for his flagship product. When customers began asking to pay for the free tool—despite it having no official pricing—Yves realized he was selling to the wrong buyer. The product that was supposed to drive demand for his core offering became the real business. After a painful pivot, he focused entirely on Teleport, repositioning it for enterprise buyers like VPs of platform engineering. The shift doubled their average contract value in a year. What’s more, Teleport’s open-source foundation—despite security fears—became a trust accelerator, allowing users to audit code and contribute to design. Now, as AI agents enter production, Teleport’s identity layer, built to unify human, machine, and AI identities, is proving essential. Yves argues that the real threat isn’t AI replacing jobs, but the lag between technological change and human systems. The future belongs to builders who embrace disruption, not fear it.
The most valuable product often emerges from a free tool meant only as a lead magnet—listen to customers, not your original plan.
If your average deal size isn’t growing, you’re likely selling to the wrong buyer; shift from technical practitioners to decision-makers like VPs of engineering.
Open-source security products build trust faster because users can audit code, contribute to design, and validate claims publicly.
AI agents don’t need a new security model—they need a unified identity layer that treats humans, machines, and AI as equal identity types.
The biggest risk isn’t AI replacing jobs—it’s human systems failing to evolve fast enough to keep pace with technology.
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From Mailgun to Teleport: The Open-Source Playbook
Omer Khan introduces Yves Concevoy, founder of Mailgun and Teleport, setting up the theme of building SaaS through open-source lead magnets and strategic pivots.
The Accidental Product: How a Free Tool Became the Core Business
“We had this Teleport thing, which was Apache license, very permissive, open source, go and use it, it's free. And then we would try to use it as a lead gen to go and sell them Gravity, our kind of packaging and deployment solution. But people started to raise their hand and they started to ask, hey, can I just buy Teleport instead?”
The Pivot That Wasn’t a Pivot: Focusing on What Customers Actually Wanted
“We didn't pivot. We just focused. We stopped doing like four out of five things we were doing at the time and just focused on Teleport, focus on identity, and focus on trust.”
The First Sale: A $1,000 Button That Changed Everything
“I'm like, it's going to be thousand. And the next question, Is it per month or is it per year? And this is where I chickened out and I said, okay, it's per year. And that's literally how the first Teleport deal got closed.”
Why Open Source Is a Security Superpower
“If you could point your finger at the repository and say, hey, teleport open source, like teleport code isn't open. you could actually go and audit it line by line. And we would hire companies that would come and do that, and we would publish reports.”
“We didn't pivot. We just focused. We stopped doing like four out of five things we were doing at the time and just focused on Teleport, focus on identity, and focus on trust.”
“There is no such thing as human identity. There is no such thing as machine identity. There is no such thing as agentic identity. If you start doing that, you're essentially fragmenting identity.”
“of like brave in the moment. And then the next question, Is it per month or is it per year? And this is where I chickened out and I said, okay, it's per year. And that's literally how the first Teleport deal got closed.”
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Teleport
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Yves Concevoy
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Omer Khan
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Mailgun
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Gravity
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Gearheart
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Peter Thiel
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Kleiner Perkins
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