Episode 611: Q&A Session

The Running Public1h 4mMay 9, 2026

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In this Q&A episode of The Running Public, hosts Bracken Crocker and Kirk DeWint dive into listener-submitted questions while reflecting on recent ultra-running feats, particularly Ian Floyd's ongoing Cocodona 250 challenge and DJ Fox's dominant victory in the same race. The conversation explores the mental and physical extremes of multi-day ultras, emphasizing toughness, resilience, and the unique character development these events reveal—especially for athletes without elite speed but with exceptional grit. The hosts contrast the value of talent in short races versus the soul-testing nature of long-distance endurance events. They also tackle practical training topics, including heat acclimation strategies, the nuanced application of RPE (Rate of Perceived Exertion) in running versus weightlifting, and the debate over whether OCR (Obstacle Course Racing) athletes outperform traditional ultra runners in long-distance events due to their functional strength and cross-training. The episode concludes with a heartfelt discussion on overcoming the fear of re-injury during return-to-running, advocating for incremental exposure and mental reframing to rebuild confidence. Throughout, the hosts blend humor, personal anecdotes, and deep insight into the psychology and physiology of endurance sports.

Key Takeaways
1

Ultra-distance races like Cocodona 250 reveal more about a runner's character and soul than speed or talent.

2

Heat acclimation is most effective when done consistently over 2–3 weeks, even if only through easy runs or post-workout sauna sessions.

3

RPE in running is highly subjective—use it as a guide, but rely on heart rate or pace zones when precision is needed.

4

OCR athletes often have an edge in ultras due to functional strength, power hiking, and injury resilience from cross-training.

5

Rebuilding confidence after injury requires gradual, controlled exposure to feared stimuli, not avoidance.

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Chapters
0:00
22 min

Cocodona 250 & DJ Fox's Dominant Win

It's a character race. And I love that. It's a space for those who don't have the talent card... but toughness matters.

Highlight
22:00
18 min

Heat Training & RPE in Running

Recovery runs cannot be pace-based because the pace doesn't care about your preexisting fatigue or damage.

Highlight
40:00
20 min

Ultra vs. OCR: Who Translates Better?

The average stereotypical high rocks athlete has to run, but they're also doing a lot of things like pushing and pulling a sled... that will bulletproof areas that will help carry them in an ultra.

Highlight
1:00:00
20 min

Poles, Downhill Damage & Training Tools

The hosts discuss the benefits of running poles in long, technical races and why Americans underuse them compared to Europeans. They explore the concept of intentional downhill damage, advising targeted, purposeful sessions rather than constant abuse. They also humorously debate the idea of a robotic training partner, ultimately agreeing it could be useful for logistics and focus.

1:20:00
27 min

Overcoming Fear of Re-Injury

If I really can never be healthy, then the injury is going to happen and it's going to prove to me that I shouldn't be doing this thing at all.

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High-Impact Quotes
If I really can never be healthy, then the injury is going to happen and it's going to prove to me that I shouldn't be doing this thing at all.
Bracken Crocker60:31
Viral: 90.0
It's a character race. And I love that. It's a space for those who don't have the talent card... but toughness matters.
Kirk DeWint6:18
Viral: 85.0
The average stereotypical high rocks athlete has to run, but they're also doing a lot of things like pushing and pulling a sled... that will bulletproof areas that will help carry them in an ultra.
Kirk DeWint43:55
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Hosts

Bracken CrockerKirk DeWint
Topics Discussed
Ultra Running95%RPE in Running90%Injury Recovery90%Heat Acclimation85%Functional Strength Training80%Downhill Running75%Running Poles70%Training Tools & Technology65%
People & Brands

Kirk DeWint

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18xPositive

Bracken Crocker

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15xPositive

DJ Fox

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12xPositive

Cocodona 250

other

10xPositive

Ian Floyd

person

8xPositive

The Running Public

media

5xPositive

Adidas Evo SL ATR

product

4xMixed

Strava

other

4xPositive

AlphaFly One

product

4xNegative

Peter Crocker

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3xPositive

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