#38 RFU Back Borthwick, URC Play-Off Race Heats up, Leicester Smash Saints

The Rugby Pod1h 20mMay 12, 2026

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The Rugby Pod dives into a packed weekend of rugby action across the Premiership, URC, and international fixtures, kicking off with a fiery discussion on the RFU's decision to retain Steve Borthwick despite a disastrous Six Nations campaign. Hosts James and Andrew critique the lack of transparency in the review process, calling it 'wishy-washy' and questioning the future of English rugby leadership. They highlight Saracens' resurgence under Mark McCall, praising their attacking flair and physicality, while dissecting Bristol's defensive disarray. Leicester’s dominant 41-17 win over Northampton is lauded as a statement of intent, with praise for their physicality and depth. The episode explores growing investment in the game, including a potential takeover of Exeter Chiefs by Donald Trump’s donors and interest in the Cornish Pirates by billionaire Ken Moritz. The URC play-off race heats up, with Connacht’s win over Munster and Ulster’s controversial draw creating massive implications for the top eight. The hosts also reflect on the role of technology in refereeing, with mixed feelings on VAR and TMOs, and deliver a heartfelt tribute to retiring legends like Lee Halfpenny and George North. The episode closes with a lively 'Good, Bad, and Ugly' segment and a series of heartfelt shout-outs to clubs and individuals.

Key Takeaways
1

The RFU's retention of Steve Borthwick despite a poor Six Nations campaign highlights a lack of transparency and accountability in English rugby leadership.

2

Saracens are transforming under Mark McCall, blending physicality with an attacking mindset, making them serious Premiership contenders.

3

Leicester Tigers' dominant win over Northampton signals a team capable of winning the Premiership, driven by physicality, depth, and strong leadership.

4

Exeter Chiefs are on the verge of a major takeover by Black Knight Sports, linked to Donald Trump’s donors, signaling a new era of investment in the Premiership.

5

The URC play-off race is intensely competitive, with Connacht, Ulster, and Cardiff all fighting for the final top-eight spot, creating high-stakes drama.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

Opening the Season's Final Stretch

The hosts kick off the episode with energy, setting the tone for a dramatic end to the domestic season. They introduce key themes: RFU leadership, investment influx, and the rising intensity of the URC and Premiership play-offs.

10:00
10 min

RFU's Borthwick Backing Sparks Debate

They've kept it all kind of hush-hush around. No one knows who's on it, so no one knows who's making these decisions.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

Saracens' Transformation Under McCall

They're playing with a smile on their face. Obviously, they're trying to finish on a high, not only for Mark McCall, but try and change the way they're playing a little bit.

Highlight
30:00
10 min

Leicester's Statement Win Over Saints

This team could win it. Yeah. Leicester could win the Prem with the way that they're going.

Highlight
40:00
10 min

Investment Surge: Trump Donors & Cornish Pirates

I did a bit more digging. I was like, who has got this kind of money? Well, Donald Trump's donors have got this kind of money.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
I did a bit more digging. I was like, who has got this kind of money? Well, Donald Trump's donors have got this kind of money.
James49:24
Viral: 92.0
125 mil. Effectively, James, how much is that a year over five years? A lot. 25 mil a year to pay into the Prem just to be in it.
Andrew47:30
Viral: 90.0
This team could win it. Yeah. Leicester could win the Prem with the way that they're going.
James20:54
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Hosts

JamesAndrew
Topics Discussed
RFU Leadership and Accountability95%URC Play-Off Race92%Premiership Play-Off Race90%Rugby Investment and Ownership88%Grassroots Rugby and Promotion Barriers87%Refereeing and Technology in Rugby85%Player Transfers and Retirements80%Team Culture and Leadership78%
People & Brands

Saracens

other

22xPositive

Leicester Tigers

other

18xPositive

Exeter Chiefs

other

16xPositive

RFU

organization

15xNegative

Munster

other

12xNeutral

Steve Borthwick

person

12xNeutral

Connacht

other

10xPositive

Ealing Trailfinders

other

8xPositive

Bristol Bears

other

7xNegative

Ian Henderson

person

6xNegative

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