Zebedy Colt – Shooting the Breeze with the Eccentric Thespian of XXX: Podcast 161

The Rialto Report32mApril 19, 2026

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In this rare and intimate 1986 conversation, legendary actor and filmmaker Zebedee Colt reflects on a life of artistic reinvention, from his early days as a child actor in 1930s Hollywood to his groundbreaking work in Broadway theatre and avant-garde music. After losing his theatre job in 1974, he unexpectedly entered the world of low-budget adult films in New York, where he became a cult figure for his surreal, psychologically intense films like *Sex Wish* and *The Devil Inside Her*. In candid, barroom-style dialogue with still photographer Barbara Nicky, Colt reveals his deep philosophical views on art, identity, and the business of performance. He discusses his controversial 1969 gay album *I'll Sing For You*, which he created under the pseudonym Zebedee Cole, and reflects on how societal perceptions of sexuality and art have evolved. Colt emphasizes that his work in adult films was never about sex, but about storytelling, character, and the power of editing to transform raw material into something meaningful. He shares his disdain for the decline of 16mm film and the rise of video, and reveals that his true passion lies in editing—where he can 'create something out of nothing.' The conversation ends with a poignant meditation on artistic integrity, the allure of creative control, and the enduring need to be seen and understood.

Key Takeaways
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Artistic integrity transcends medium: Colt viewed adult films not as degradation, but as a legitimate, creative outlet for psychological storytelling.

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Editing is a form of creation: He found profound fulfillment in reshaping fragmented footage into cohesive, profitable films, calling it 'the godlike power' of the editor.

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Identity is performance: His pseudonyms (Zebedee Cole, Zebedee Colder) were acts of rebellion and reinvention, not deception.

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Sex is not the point: He refused to perform hardcore scenes, emphasizing that eroticism lies in narrative and emotional tension, not explicit content.

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The business of art is real: He saw adult film as a 'high-class form of unemployment'—a necessary bridge between artistic dreams and financial survival.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

The Unlikely Rise of Zebedee Colt

He entered an industry that was known for being sleazy and taboo, and made it a lot more transgressive.

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5:00
5 min

The Gay Album That Shocked the World

You should just make an album of a guy singing songs like The Man I Love, Bill, The Boy Next Door, but singing them absolutely straight.

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10:00
5 min

Artistic Identity and Pseudonyms

Colt reveals the origin of his stage names—Zebedee Cole (a playful jab at his Mormon ancestor) and Zebedee Colder (a phonetic twist). He discusses how identity is fluid and performative, especially in the entertainment industry.

15:00
5 min

The Business of Sex and Art

It doesn't make that much of a difference. It depends on what you're shooting for.

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20:00
5 min

The Psychology of Performance and Power

It's a desperate need to be recognized, to have someone pay attention to, to be loved.

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High-Impact Quotes
An editor can turn a silk purse out of a sow's ear, and I've done it in this business more than once, and I get hung up with saying, I got to do that again.
Zebedee Colt31:02
Viral: 95.0
It was a six-minute scene, all edited and choreographed to the theme music of the film. There's no cut shot. There's very little high court. But it's one of the most erotic films you've ever seen before.
Zebedee Colt23:43
Viral: 92.0
You should just make an album of a guy singing songs like The Man I Love, Bill, The Boy Next Door, but singing them absolutely straight.
Zebedee Colt4:30
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Host

Ashley West

Guest

Zebedee Colt
Topics Discussed
Editing as Creative Power95%The Myth of Victimhood in Adult Film92%Artistic Identity and Performance90%Psychology of Desire and Masochism88%Creative Control in Film Production87%The Intersection of Porn and Mainstream Art85%Music and Queer Expression80%The Decline of 16mm Film75%
People & Brands

Zebedee Colt

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12xPositive

Rialto Report

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4xPositive

Leonard Kurtman

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3xNeutral

Linda Lovelace

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3xNegative

Damiano

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2xNegative

Barbara Nicky

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2xNeutral

London Philharmonic Orchestra

organization

2xPositive

Robert Mitchum

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1xNeutral

Wade Nichols

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1xPositive

Rob Hudson

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1xNeutral

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