Radical Chic | Interview: Noah Rothman
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In this episode of The Remnant Podcast, Jonah Goldberg interviews Noah Rothman, senior writer at National Review and author of the forthcoming book *Blood and Progress: A Century of Left-Wing Violence in America*. Rothman argues that left-wing political violence in the U.S. has been systematically downplayed, ignored, or actively suppressed by cultural and academic institutions, despite a long and documented history of revolutionary, anarchist, and terrorist activity from the early 20th century to today. He traces this pattern through the 1910s, 1970s, and 2020s, highlighting events like the 2020 racial justice protests, the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, and attacks on ICE and CBP facilities. Rothman contends that the dominant narrative falsely frames right-wing extremism as the primary source of domestic violence, while dismissing or excusing left-wing violence as 'revolutionary' or 'protest-driven.' He critiques the lack of rigorous academic study on left-wing extremism, citing internal DHS documents that reveal researchers face intimidation for their work. The conversation also turns to the Iran war, where Rothman defends Trump’s persistence in the conflict despite erratic rhetoric, arguing that the administration’s strategic goals—degrading Iran’s military and enabling regime change—are sound, even if poorly communicated. Goldberg pushes back on the idea that Trump’s statements are irrelevant, warning that inconsistent messaging undermines U.S. credibility and alliance cohesion. The episode closes with a discussion of the podcast’s new paywall model, which has been met with overwhelming support from listeners. Key takeaways include: 1) Left-wing violence in America has been historically under-studied and systematically minimized in public discourse; 2) The cultural and institutional bias toward excusing left-wing violence creates a dangerous cognitive dissonance that prevents effective policy responses; 3) The Iran war, while poorly communicated, reflects a coherent long-term strategy of weakening Iran’s military and enabling internal collapse; 4) Political violence is reciprocal—right-wing and left-wing extremism feed off each other, creating a cycle of radicalization; 5) The success of The Remnant’s paywall model shows that audiences value high-quality, independent journalism and are willing to support it. The overall tone is urgent, intellectually rigorous, and cautiously optimistic about the possibility of reforming public discourse on violence and foreign policy.
Left-wing political violence in America has been systematically downplayed and ignored by cultural institutions despite a documented history of revolutionary and terrorist activity.
The dominant narrative falsely frames right-wing extremism as the primary source of domestic violence, creating a dangerous cognitive dissonance that prevents effective policy responses.
The Iran war, while poorly communicated by Trump, reflects a coherent long-term strategy of weakening Iran’s military and enabling internal collapse.
Political violence is reciprocal—right-wing and left-wing extremism feed off each other, creating a cycle of radicalization that must be addressed holistically.
The success of The Remnant’s paywall model shows that audiences value high-quality, independent journalism and are willing to support it.
Podcast Intro and Guest Introduction
Jonah Goldberg introduces Noah Rothman, senior writer at National Review and author of *Blood and Progress*, setting a dramatic, metaphorical tone comparing their intellectual rivalry to a Western showdown. He highlights Rothman’s background and the significance of his new book.
The Central Thesis: Left-Wing Violence and Institutional Denial
“We hear about it after assassinations attempted or successful attacks on ICE and CBP facilities... We hear about it after riots and mob actions. And it's increasingly flying in the face of evidence of your own eyes when you have to hear that explanation bandied about to explain why all the left-wing violence you're encountering isn't really a thing you should be worried about.”
Historical Roots of Left-Wing Violence
“The through line is revolution. The through line is that the American founding was a historical mistake that needs to be corrected. And it needs to be corrected through the application, judicious or otherwise, application of violence.”
The Myth of 'Spontaneous' Protests and Coordinated Violence
“There was a certain degree of coordination, as there typically is. Black block tactics are a mass phenomenon, but you can't do them just, you know, by virtue of sort of an organic commitment to wearing the same thing.”
The Cult of Personality Around Violent Left-Wing Figures
“Che Guevara onesies that you can buy for your baby, right? You know, or Franz Fanon. No one in academia really likes to talk about the Fanon who later matured and kind of turned his back on violence. They like the anti-colonial, blood in the streets guy.”
“The through line is revolution. The through line is that the American founding was a historical mistake that needs to be corrected. And it needs to be corrected through the application, judicious or otherwise, application of violence.”
“We hear about it after assassinations attempted or successful attacks on ICE and CBP facilities... We hear about it after riots and mob actions. And it's increasingly flying in the face of evidence of your own eyes when you have to hear that explanation bandied about to explain why all the left-wing violence you're encountering isn't really a thing you should be worried about.”
“We have to take it back by force. We cannot be bequeathed by virtue of the generosity of the Iranian regime, a free and open strait.”
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Jonah Goldberg
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Donald Trump
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Brian Thompson
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The Dispatch
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