Best Of: An Epicurean Guide to the Good Life
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The idea that pleasure is inherently selfish or immoral is a myth, argues philosopher Emily Austin in her book 'Living for Pleasure: An Epicurean Guide to Life.' In a compelling conversation with host Rufus Griscom, Austin reveals that Epicurus, the ancient Greek philosopher, wasn't a hedonist in the debauched sense—but a pioneering advocate for a life of tranquility, friendship, and prudently chosen pleasures. Far from promoting indulgence, Epicurus taught that true happiness comes from minimizing anxiety and cultivating long-term, sustainable joy through simple pleasures like good food, meaningful friendships, and intellectual curiosity. The episode dismantles the modern misconception that Stoicism—emphasizing endurance and self-denial—is the superior philosophy, arguing instead that Epicureanism offers a more scientifically accurate, compassionate, and human-centered path to flourishing. With insights drawn from neuroscience, psychology, and ancient wisdom, the conversation shows how prioritizing friendship, limiting corrosive desires like greed, and embracing the impermanence of life can lead to a deeply satisfying existence. The most radical takeaway? That the key to happiness isn't in enduring pain, but in learning to savor life’s quiet, enduring moments—because, as Epicurus knew, 'the person who least needs tomorrow goes happiest to meet it.'
True pleasure is not physical indulgence but tranquility—the absence of anxiety and the presence of meaningful joy.
Epicureanism prioritizes friendship as the foundation of a good life, not as a tool for status, but as a source of mutual security and shared joy.
Corrosive desires (like greed or endless ambition) are insatiable and destructive; they must be limited, not indulged, to maintain long-term happiness.
The most satisfying pleasures are often simple, accessible, and rooted in connection—not wealth, fame, or excess.
Epicurus believed that death is not to be feared because non-existence is neither painful nor pleasant, and we should focus on living fully in the time we have.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Myth of Masochism: Why We Celebrate Pain
The episode opens by challenging the cultural obsession with suffering, questioning the 'no pain, no gain' mentality and tracing its roots to religious and psychological conditioning. The host reflects on how masochism has been romanticized as virtue, while pleasure is often dismissed as selfish.
Epicurus: The Real Hedonist
“He owned just two cloaks and subsisted mostly on bread and olives. His only vice, it seems, was a fondness for cheese.”
Pleasure as Prudence: The Three Types of Desires
“The person who least needs tomorrow goes happiest to meet it.”
Friendship as a Foundation of Joy
“Close Epicurean friendships are jointly secure attachments enriched by shared joys and a concern for each other's personal growth.”
Stoicism vs. Epicureanism: A Philosophical Rivalry
A direct comparison of the two ancient schools: Stoicism’s focus on virtue as the only good, and Epicureanism’s belief that friendship and pleasure are essential to a good life. The episode argues that Stoicism’s detachment is emotionally unsustainable.
“The person who least needs tomorrow goes happiest to meet it.”
“Greed is inconsistent with satisfaction. If we would like to be satisfied, an appetite forevermore is a way to be certain that we will not be satisfied.”
“Close Epicurean friendships are jointly secure attachments enriched by shared joys and a concern for each other's personal growth.”
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epicurus
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emily austin
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rufus griscom
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stoicism
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antonio damasio
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lucretius
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will storr
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gordon gekko
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harvard longevity study
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vivek murthy
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