The History Wars and America at 250, with the Historian Jill Lepore
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In this special episode of The New Yorker Radio Hour, historian Jill Lepore explores the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence amid a national reckoning over America’s past. Drawing on archival footage from the 1976 bicentennial, Lepore reveals that even then, Americans were deeply ambivalent about celebrating their nation’s founding—questioning its meaning, confronting its contradictions, and expressing anxiety about decline. She contrasts that with today’s 'history wars,' where political forces attempt to sanitize or weaponize the past, exemplified by the Trump-era America 250 Commission’s controversial film that glorified Manifest Destiny and erased Indigenous presence. Lepore argues that history should not be a battleground but a living conversation, one that requires historians to engage with the public, especially educators, to foster shared understanding. In a conversation with Columbia Journalism School Dean Jelani Cobb, she emphasizes the importance of local civic engagement—like community potlucks and classroom projects—as alternatives to top-down national narratives. The episode ultimately calls for a more inclusive, honest, and participatory approach to national memory.
America’s 250th anniversary is not a moment of triumph but a chance to confront the nation’s contradictions and unfinished work.
The 1976 bicentennial was marked by skepticism and anxiety—just like today—proving that national self-doubt is a recurring theme.
Political attempts to control history (like the America 250 film) are not new, but the current era’s 'historical trolling' is especially dangerous.
Academic historians must do more to support K-12 educators, who are caught in ideological crossfires over what to teach.
Local civic engagement—community events, classroom projects, neighborhood dialogues—is a more sustainable path to national unity than waiting for presidential guidance.
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The 250th Anniversary and the Bicentennial Mirror
“America at 250 seems now, to a lot of people, to me anyway, it seems like a mess. In a piece I wrote for the magazine this winter, I called the 250th a goat rodeo and I stand by that.”
The Bicentennial's Uncomfortable Truths
“For me, it doesn't have any real significant meaning. I mean, what's the difference between 199 years or 201 years? In many ways, the bicentennial is just being fabricated.”
The History Wars and the Politics of Memory
“There is no land acknowledgement in this film. Well, there is a land acknowledgement. It's the acknowledgement that Columbus landed.”
Historical Trolling and the Role of the Historian
The hosts debate whether the current political narratives are a form of 'historical trolling'—intentionally distorting history to provoke. They emphasize that history should be a space for argument without end, not a weapon in political battles.
The Crisis of Public History and the Teacher’s Dilemma
Lepore and Cobb express concern that academic historians have abdicated their responsibility to K-12 educators, leaving classrooms vulnerable to political swings. They argue for a more robust public history infrastructure to support teachers and students.
“There is no land acknowledgement in this film. Well, there is a land acknowledgement. It's the acknowledgement that Columbus landed.”
“The idea that we're sitting around waiting for the occupant of the White House to tell us what American history means. You know, that's the thing where you just kind of want to walk into traffic.”
“America at 250 seems now, to a lot of people, to me anyway, it seems like a mess. In a piece I wrote for the magazine this winter, I called the 250th a goat rodeo and I stand by that.”
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Jelani Cobb
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The Birthday Party
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Federal Writers Project
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Christopher Columbus
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Donald Trump
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