PM Show Hr 1 | Prof Josh Blackman on Current SCOTUS and How They Will Look at Challenges
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The Michael Berry Show opens with a historic moment: President Trump becoming the first sitting U.S. president to attend oral arguments before the Supreme Court, in a case challenging birthright citizenship. The episode explores the legal and political implications of Trump's executive order, which sought to deny citizenship to children born in the U.S. to undocumented parents, arguing that the 14th Amendment’s 'subject to the jurisdiction' clause was meant to exclude those with divided loyalties, such as birth tourists. Professor Josh Blackman, a leading SCOTUS expert, analyzes the case, noting that while Trump’s appointees—Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett—appear to be critical of the government’s argument, they are unlikely to side with the president. Blackman suggests the justices may rule against Trump, citing the long-standing precedent and societal integration of birthright citizenship. The discussion expands to other high-profile cases, including a Colorado law restricting therapists from counseling minors who wish to affirm their gender identity, which the Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional on free speech grounds. Another case, Louisiana’s race-based congressional districting, is criticized as a modern form of racial gerrymandering, with Blackman expressing frustration over the Court’s delayed rulings, particularly when they risk affecting upcoming elections. The episode concludes with a broader critique of judicial timidity, especially under Chief Justice Roberts, and a call for justices with stronger constitutional principles.
President Trump made history as the first sitting U.S. president to attend Supreme Court oral arguments, highlighting the symbolic weight of the birthright citizenship case.
The Supreme Court is likely to rule against Trump’s executive order denying citizenship to children of undocumented parents, despite the president’s personal involvement and the precedent of 14th Amendment interpretation.
Trump’s Supreme Court appointees—Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett—appear to be more moderate and transactional than originalist conservatives, disappointing some of Trump’s base.
The Court’s delay in ruling on major cases like the Louisiana gerrymandering case raises concerns about judicial timeliness and principle, especially when elections are at stake.
The Colorado therapy case affirmed that laws cannot restrict speech based on one side of a debate, reinforcing free speech protections even in sensitive areas like gender identity counseling.
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Historic Moment: President Trump Attends Supreme Court Oral Arguments
“For the first time in American history, a sitting United States president attended oral arguments before the Supreme Court.”
The Birthright Citizenship Case: Legal and Constitutional Foundations
Professor Josh Blackman breaks down the 14th Amendment's 'subject to the jurisdiction' clause, explaining the legal debate over whether birth tourism undermines the principle of birthright citizenship. He contrasts historical intent—granting citizenship to freed slaves—with modern interpretations and the practical challenges of enforcement.
Trump’s Supreme Court Appointments: A Mismatch of Expectations
“These were middle-of-the-road, milquetoast conservatives... they're going to side with whatever is kind of convenient and not what's necessarily constitutional.”
The Colorado Therapy Case: Free Speech and Gender Identity
“You can't pick one side of the debate and not the other. That can't be the rule.”
Race-Based Gerrymandering and Judicial Delay
Blackman critiques the Louisiana voting rights case, where districts were drawn to ensure Black representation, calling it a modern form of racial gerrymandering. He expresses frustration over the Court’s prolonged delay in ruling, especially as it may impact upcoming elections.
“For the first time in American history, a sitting United States president attended oral arguments before the Supreme Court.”
“These were middle-of-the-road, milquetoast conservatives... they're going to side with whatever is kind of convenient and not what's necessarily constitutional.”
“The difference between a conservative judge and a moderate judge, they both know what the law is, but they're just afraid to do it.”
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