Hour 4: NASA is sending astronauts to the moon again tomorrow
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The John Curley Show dives into two major stories in this episode. First, investigative journalist Glenn Morgan from We The Govern exposes a systemic conflict of interest involving Washington State Senate Majority Leader Jamie Peterson, who profits personally from legislation he helps write—particularly the Climate Commitment Act—while simultaneously serving as a top executive at McKinstry, a company that secures massive no-bid government contracts. Morgan details how Peterson’s financial disclosures show he earns $250k–$500k annually from McKinstry, owns a 1% stake, and benefits from dividends tied directly to laws he authored. Despite the clear ethical breach, the practice is technically legal due to loopholes in state ethics laws, which Peterson himself helped weaken. The episode also critiques the lack of accountability, noting Peterson sits on the very ethics board that could investigate him. Later, the show shifts to space exploration, previewing NASA’s Artemis 2 mission—the first crewed flight of the Orion capsule to the moon—set for launch the next day. Host Joe frames the mission as a pivotal step toward Mars, a race against China, and a symbol of human innovation and inspiration, though he humorously mocks the media spectacle surrounding it, including the astronaut’s appearance and the perceived over-the-top hype.
State lawmakers in Washington can legally profit from legislation they write if they own less than 10% of a company, creating dangerous conflicts of interest.
Jamie Peterson’s company, McKinstry, saw its state contracts grow from $4M to $40M after he authored laws that funneled public funds to his business.
Ethics enforcement is compromised when the same officials who write the rules also sit on the oversight boards meant to hold them accountable.
NASA’s Artemis 2 mission is a historic test flight of the Orion capsule, launching tomorrow, marking humanity’s return to the moon and a step toward Mars.
The U.S. is in a strategic race with China to establish a lunar presence, with potential long-term goals including helium-3 mining for clean energy.
Introduction and Guest Setup
The show opens with a playful banter between hosts John and Joe, introducing Glenn Morgan from We The Govern as a key guest. The tone is lighthearted but sets up the serious investigative work to come.
The Insider Grift: Jamie Peterson and McKinstry
“It's just endless coincidence, especially when there's about six laws like this that he's written that directly come back to the company that he worked for as the primary sole source no bid contractor.”
Ethics Loopholes and Institutional Capture
“You can get in trouble for posting the wrong Facebook TikTok video during the let's save session, and you can get fined $5,000 for a Facebook post... but you can go and do this and have... millions of dollars coming into your tens of millions of dollars in your business and ultimately, over a number of years, millions of dollars into your own personal back pocket.”
The Climate Commitment Act: A False Promise
“They were off by 98 percent and they had to adjust it down to a pathetic and probably unsubstantiated little minor level that they claim of carbon they actually removed for the small price of a billion dollars.”
Artemis 2: Humanity’s Return to the Moon
The episode concludes with a shift to space exploration, highlighting NASA’s upcoming Artemis 2 mission—the first crewed flight of the Orion capsule. Host Joe frames the mission as a bold step toward Mars, a race with China, and a symbol of human ingenuity and inspiration.
“You can get in trouble for posting the wrong Facebook TikTok video during the let's save session, and you can get fined $5,000 for a Facebook post... but you can go and do this and have... millions of dollars coming into your tens of millions of dollars in your business and ultimately, over a number of years, millions of dollars into your own personal back pocket.”
“They were off by 98 percent and they had to adjust it down to a pathetic and probably unsubstantiated little minor level that they claim of carbon they actually removed for the small price of a billion dollars.”
“It's just endless coincidence, especially when there's about six laws like this that he's written that directly come back to the company that he worked for as the primary sole source no bid contractor.”
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Jamie Peterson
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Glenn Morgan
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NASA
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We The Govern
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China
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Hard Knocks
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Orion Space Capsule
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