THE HERD - Hour 3 - Former NFL and College Football head coach Dave Wannstedt stops by The Herd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd33mApril 23, 2026

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In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, former NFL and college football head coach Dave Wannstedt joins live to discuss the upcoming NFL Draft, player evaluations, and team strategies. Wannstedt shares his deep insights on defensive personnel, emphasizing the importance of position-specific skill sets—highlighting how players like Micah Parsons and Hassan Redick struggled when asked to drop into coverage despite their athleticism. He critiques the idea of 'ghost rushers' and stresses that true pass-rush effectiveness comes from repetition and specialization. The conversation turns to top draft prospects, with Wannstedt expressing strong confidence in David Bailey over Arvel Reese due to Reese’s lack of proven coverage ability. He also praises Fernando Mendoza’s mental toughness and poise, calling him ready to start despite being a rookie. The discussion expands to team-specific strategies, particularly focusing on the Pittsburgh Steelers, where Wannstedt and guest Mike DeFabo debate Aaron Rodgers’ uncertain future, the Steelers’ need for offensive line help, and their cautious approach to quarterback development. Wannstedt advocates for aggressive drafting and development, especially in building a young, flexible defense. The episode closes with a lively exchange on draft-day speculation and team-building philosophies, underscoring the balance between need, talent, and long-term planning. Key takeaways include: (1) Specialization beats versatility in the NFL—especially at defensive positions; (2) Mental toughness and consistency are more predictive of success than physical measurements; (3) Teams should prioritize drafting offensive linemen early, especially for run-heavy offenses; (4) Quarterback development requires patience and a clear plan, not just high draft picks; (5) Aggressive trading up can be justified when targeting elite talent; (6) The Steelers’ defensive spending may need to be reevaluated to allow for more youth and flexibility; (7) Player evaluations should be based on role clarity, not just raw athleticism; (8) Coaches must prioritize repetition and position-specific development to maximize player potential. The overall tone is constructive, insightful, and optimistic about the draft process and team-building strategies.

Key Takeaways
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Specialization beats versatility in the NFL—especially at defensive positions.

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Mental toughness and consistency are more predictive of success than physical measurements.

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Teams should prioritize drafting offensive linemen early, especially for run-heavy offenses.

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Quarterback development requires patience and a clear plan, not just high draft picks.

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Aggressive trading up can be justified when targeting elite talent.

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4 min

Sponsor Segments and Intro

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6 min

Coach Wannstedt Joins Live: Draft Philosophy and Player Evaluation

You know how hard it is to be a great linebacker, to be Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher? Do you understand how hard that is to be Bobby Wagner? It's like asking a middle reliever to be a closer or asking a closer to be a starter.

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10:00
7 min

Evaluating Top Draft Prospects: Mendoza, Bailey, Reese, and Bain

The thing that Bain does too, and someone used the term, it was kind of interesting, some of these rushers got to be ghost rushers. And they say by ghost rushers, meaning you've got to have enough ability to move inside and come outside or move outside and come inside.

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17:00
7 min

Draft Strategy: Best Player Available vs. Need-Based Drafting

We never just sat there. Taking the best player available and sit, that wasn't even in our vocabulary. We were going to move up or move down.

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24:00
7 min

The Steelers’ Draft Dilemma: Aaron Rodgers, Defense, and Offense

The only way you do it is as you're talking about, by bringing in young new talent so that you don't have to pay a 36-year-old Cameron Hayward or you don't have to pay TJ Watt record-breaking type of money.

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High-Impact Quotes
You know how hard it is to be a great linebacker, to be Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher? Do you understand how hard that is to be Bobby Wagner? It's like asking a middle reliever to be a closer or asking a closer to be a starter.
Dave Wannstedt27:02
Viral: 85.0
The only way you do it is as you're talking about, by bringing in young new talent so that you don't have to pay a 36-year-old Cameron Hayward or you don't have to pay TJ Watt record-breaking type of money.
Dave Wannstedt38:07
Viral: 80.0
We never just sat there. Taking the best player available and sit, that wasn't even in our vocabulary. We were going to move up or move down.
Dave Wannstedt8:44
Viral: 78.0
Speakers

Host

Colin Cowherd

Guest

Dave Wannstedt
Topics Discussed
NFL Draft Strategy95%Player Evaluation and Positional Fit90%Quarterback Development85%Defensive Personnel and Rebuilding82%Offensive Line Needs80%Mental Toughness in Football78%Aggressive Draft Trading75%Team Building and Long-Term Planning70%
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Dave Wannstedt

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25xPositive

Colin Cowherd

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Pittsburgh Steelers

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Aaron Rodgers

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Mike DeFabo

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8xPositive

Fernando Mendoza

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7xPositive

Arvel Reese

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David Bailey

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6xPositive

Reuben Bain

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5xPositive

Chicago Bears

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