Joe and Jada - Tracy McGrady talks Knicks, ICONIC Rockets-Spurs comeback, toughest NBA matchup & ‘Cousins’ podcast with Vince Carter

The Herd with Colin Cowherd1h 10mApril 23, 2026

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The episode features a dynamic conversation between Joe and Jada on The Herd with Colin Cowherd, centered on NBA legend Tracy McGrady, who joins as the guest. McGrady reflects on his legendary 13-point burst in 35 seconds against the Spurs, the psychological state of 'the zone,' and his time with the Knicks. The hosts dive into McGrady’s career highlights, including his scoring prowess, his rivalry with Tim Duncan, and his thoughts on the toughest defenders he faced. The discussion expands into broader cultural topics, including the state of hip-hop, the challenges of aging artists, and the evolving media landscape. McGrady also shares insights into his new podcast with Vince Carter, his one-on-one basketball league (OBL), and his entrepreneurial ventures. The episode is filled with humor, personal stories, and candid takes on sports, music, and authenticity in media, with recurring sponsor plugs for Hard Rock Bet and 1800 Tequila. The tone is energetic, irreverent, and celebratory of legacy and hustle.

Key Takeaways
1

Tracy McGrady's 13-point flurry in 35 seconds against the Spurs remains one of the most iconic comebacks in NBA history.

2

The 'zone' is a real psychological state where players feel unstoppable—muscle memory and confidence override physical limitations.

3

McGrady believes authenticity in media and podcasts is more valuable than manufactured drama or viral content.

4

His new one-on-one league (OBL) aims to bring ownership and representation to underrepresented communities in alternative sports.

5

Aging hip-hop artists face systemic barriers in radio and streaming, despite consistent quality—radio gatekeepers often favor younger acts.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

Intro: The Herd with Colin Cowherd & Podcast Promos

The episode opens with a series of podcast promos for Love Trapped, The Girlfriends, Thanks Dad, The Clifford Show, and other iHeartRadio content, setting a promotional tone before the main guest segment.

10:00
10 min

Tracy McGrady’s Legendary 13-Point Comeback

Once I got the and one on the second three, I was like, oh. The basket is huge now.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

The Psychology of the Zone & Basketball Perception

McGrady discusses how the basket can appear larger when in the zone, emphasizing muscle memory and mental focus over physical sight. He shares personal anecdotes about failing to replicate that feeling in celebrity games.

30:00
10 min

McGrady’s Knicks Era & the 'Transformation' Debate

The hosts debate the irony of players changing names (e.g., T-Mac to Tracy) and the cultural obsession with identity in sports, with McGrady reflecting on his time with the Knicks and the team's struggles.

40:00
10 min

The Tough Defenders & the Evolution of the Game

McGrady names the toughest defender he ever faced—6'8" with a long wingspan and strength—and discusses how he adapted his game with quick moves and screen-running, contrasting with legends like Reggie Miller.

High-Impact Quotes
No old nigga music. I said, what do you mean? If Mary J Blige come out with a hit, we're not playing it.
Joe55:37
Viral: 92.0
I got some ownership in the Buffalo Bills. And when you look around, you know, our major sports and look at ownership, it's not a lot of people that look like us.
Tracy McGrady40:08
Viral: 90.0
Everything we want to put out is just real and authentic. You know, be relatable and not just trying to create a firestorm on social media.
Tracy McGrady64:02
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Hosts

JoeJada

Guest

Tracy McGrady
Topics Discussed
NBA Comebacks95%One-on-One Basketball League92%The Zone (Psychological State)90%Authenticity in Media88%Sports Ownership & Representation87%Basketball Psychology85%Legacy & Career Longevity82%Hip-Hop & Aging Artists80%
People & Brands

Joe

person

30xPositive

Jada

person

28xPositive

Tracy McGrady

person

25xPositive

Vince Carter

person

12xPositive

OBL

organization

8xPositive

Clifford Taylor

person

5xPositive

Love Trapped

media

5xNeutral

Reggie Miller

person

5xPositive

The Clifford Show

media

4xPositive

The Girlfriends

media

4xPositive

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