Podcast 546: Michael Daves and Jacob Jolliff on Jim & Jesse

The Fretboard Journal Guitar Podcast1h 0mApril 20, 2026

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Michael Daves and Jacob Jolliffe, two of bluegrass's most respected guitar and mandolin players, dive deep into the legacy of Jim and Jesse McReynolds—the duo who redefined bluegrass with their clean, accessible harmonies and revolutionary instrumental techniques. Despite their polished stage presence, the brothers were driven by raw musical innovation, especially Jesse McReynolds, whose mandolin style fused banjo rolls with a unique split-string technique and notched fingernails to produce six-note chords. The duo’s new album, *We Like Jim and Jesse*, isn’t just a tribute—it’s a labor of love born from years of collaboration, studio perfectionism, and a shared reverence for the McReynolds’ vocal precision and instrumental fire. Recorded live in a Brooklyn church hall with vintage mics and minimal processing, the album captures the intimacy and urgency of their performances. Beyond the record, both artists are pushing boundaries: Jacob has released a classical mandolin concerto and a solo hymns album, while Michael is launching a label, Wild Geranium Records, and preparing a groundbreaking mando cello and drum project inspired by Britfolk and experimental rock. Their conversation reveals a deep commitment to musical authenticity, craftsmanship, and the idea that true artistry lies not in gear or fame, but in relentless attention to detail and the courage to explore the uncharted.

Key Takeaways
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Recorded vocals live without pitch correction to preserve authenticity, requiring 17 takes for one instrumental track due to vocal precision demands.

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Jesse McReynolds used notched fingernails and a widened fingerboard to play six-note chords on the mandolin, a technique few have replicated.

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Michael Daves prefers old Gibsons over Martins for their mid-range snap and durability, rejecting vintage aesthetics in favor of functional sound.

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Jacob Jolliffe’s new solo hymns album maintains the melody throughout, proving that continuous melodic presence enhances listener connection in solo acoustic music.

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The duo’s new mando cello and drum project blends Britfolk, grunge, and experimental rock, using converted Archtop guitars and drummer Kid Millions.

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Chapters
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10 min

Introduction and Album Launch

Jason Verlinde introduces the episode with a warm welcome, highlights recent Fretboard Journal content, and sets the stage for the conversation with Michael Daves and Jacob Jolliffe about their new tribute album, *We Like Jim and Jesse*.

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10 min

The Legacy of Jim and Jesse McReynolds

Jim and Jesse were very presentable, matching suits, pump doors, just clean cut. And they sang laser beam straight harmonies.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

Jesse McReynolds' Revolutionary Mandolin Technique

He had a special fingernail with a notch in it where he was like, you know, the mandolin has the twin, you know, the double courses of strings and he would press down one of each pair to get like the pair ringing different notes.

Highlight
30:00
10 min

The Making of 'We Like Jim and Jesse'

The one that took the cake as far as number of takes was El Cumbanchero, the instrumental. And that was purely on account of me. I just wasn't getting it together.

Highlight
40:00
10 min

Recording Process and Studio Setup

Michael details the recording environment—a 19th-century Brooklyn church hall—and the mic setup used, including a Telefunken, KM-184, 4051 pencil mic, and ribbon mics, all chosen for natural reverb and clarity.

High-Impact Quotes
Mando Cello is just the acoustic version of that vibe. And it's just underutilized.
Michael Daves58:51
Viral: 88.0
He had a special fingernail with a notch in it where he was like, you know, the mandolin has the twin, you know, the double courses of strings and he would press down one of each pair to get like the pair ringing different notes.
Michael Daves11:51
Viral: 85.0
the one that took the cake as far as number of takes was El Cambencero, the instrumental. And that was purely on account of me. I just wasn't getting it together.
Michael Daves22:57
Viral: 82.0
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Host

Jason Verlinde

Guests

Michael DavesJacob Jolliffe
Topics Discussed
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