NAN119: Adapting Core Automation Practices to Challenging Environments with Matt Campbell
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In this episode of The Everything Feed, host Eric Cho sits down with Matt Campbell, a network engineer at Blue Origin, to explore how core automation practices adapt in high-stakes, low-margin environments like those found in aerospace. Matt shares his non-traditional path into networking—starting with a psychology degree before pivoting to a Telecommunications Systems Management program at Murray State University. He reflects on how his psychology background sharpened his analytical and interpersonal skills, especially in high-pressure situations. At Blue Origin, Matt describes a complex, multi-faceted network infrastructure supporting rocket development, testing, and launch operations, where security, redundancy, and performance are paramount. Despite the challenges of legacy systems, strict compliance (like ITAR), and limited physical space, Matt emphasizes the importance of gradual automation, mentorship, and building trust through small, safe wins. He shares personal stories of pride in contributing to historic launches like the Glenn 2, and offers practical advice: start small, use dry runs, leverage tools like Nuts for testing, and focus on vendor-agnostic services like DNS and DHCP. He also debunks myths about automation being too risky or all-or-nothing, advocating instead for a phased, intentional approach. Looking ahead, Matt is excited about AI’s potential to translate business intent into network design and implementation. The episode closes with a strong call to action: seek out informal mentorship, embrace automation as a tool for empowerment, and stay curious about how networks serve broader business goals.
Start automation incrementally—use dry runs, test frameworks, and small wins to build trust before scaling.
Mentorship is transformative; seek informal mentors by asking to 'shadow' or 'be a fly on the wall' without formal permission.
Focus on vendor-agnostic services (like DNS, DHCP) to build foundational automation skills that scale across environments.
High-stakes environments demand fault tolerance and redundancy, but automation must be balanced with business speed and constraints.
AI and intent-based networking are future-facing, but success starts with deep understanding of network fundamentals and business needs.
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Introduction & Guest Welcome
Eric Cho introduces the episode and welcomes Matt Campbell, a network engineer at Blue Origin, setting the stage for a discussion on automation in high-pressure environments.
Matt's Non-Traditional Career Path
Matt shares his journey from a psychology degree to a Telecommunications Systems Management program at Murray State University, highlighting how his academic background shaped his analytical and interpersonal skills.
From AdTran to Blue Origin: Building Foundational Skills
Matt recounts his five-year tenure at AdTran, where he gained deep troubleshooting experience and learned the value of network design, before transitioning to Blue Origin.
The High-Stakes Network at Blue Origin
“You're just cranking up the difficulty modifier on a video game. You're just trying to find the most complicated way to be able to mesh all of these complicated network requirements from a business perspective into it.”
Mentorship: The Informal Path to Growth
“I think just being able to be conversational and learn how to take your technical understanding and translate it to something that somebody else can digest and act on. That's something that I got really heavily from the mentor space.”
“I still do as well. So if you need to have a visual on somebody who has imposter syndrome, just imagine me and Matt, man. But we still made out okay.”
“You're just cranking up the difficulty modifier on a video game. You're just trying to find the most complicated way to be able to mesh all of these complicated network requirements from a business perspective into it.”
“You don't have to flip the big red switch and just let everything go and fail at once. And that's not recommended either, right?”
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Eric Cho
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