You’ve Been Pooping All Wrong (And It’s Affecting Your Brain) with Dr. Trischa Pasricha | E213
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In this eye-opening episode of The Empowering Neurologist Podcast, host Dr. David Perlmutter sits down with Dr. Tricia Pasricha, a gastroenterologist and author of the new book *You've Been Pooping All Wrong*, to dismantle long-standing myths about bowel movements and explore the profound gut-brain connection. Dr. Pasricha challenges the pervasive belief that one bowel movement per day is the gold standard, emphasizing that bowel habits vary widely and that going after every meal or even every third day can be perfectly normal. She highlights the critical importance of recognizing changes in bowel habits as potential red flags for early-onset colorectal cancer, especially in younger populations where rates are rising rapidly. The conversation delves into the science of intestinal permeability—commonly known as 'leaky gut'—and how stress, poor diet, alcohol, and medications can compromise the gut barrier, leading to systemic inflammation linked to Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and other degenerative diseases. Dr. Pasricha advocates for a holistic approach to gut health, focusing on lifestyle changes like reducing processed foods, managing stress, and improving sleep, rather than relying solely on supplements. She also discusses the limitations of current diagnostic tools and the potential—but still experimental—role of fecal microbiota transplants in treating conditions like Parkinson’s, while emphasizing that prebiotics and whole foods are more reliably beneficial. The episode concludes with a powerful call to treat the gut with the same respect as the brain, underscoring that gut health is not separate from brain health but deeply integrated with it.
Bowel movement frequency varies widely—going after every meal or every third day can be normal; the idea that one daily bowel movement is the only 'right' way is a myth.
Changes in bowel habits (like new constipation, diarrhea, or thin stools) should not be ignored, especially in younger people, as they may signal early-onset colorectal cancer.
Intestinal permeability ('leaky gut') is real and can be triggered by stress, poor diet, alcohol, and medications; it's linked to systemic inflammation and neurodegenerative diseases.
The gut-brain axis is bidirectional: gut health directly influences brain function, and brain states like anxiety can alter gut motility and permeability.
A holistic '4R' approach—remove triggers, replace with whole foods, replenish with prebiotics, and restore balance—can significantly improve gut and overall health.
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The Biggest Myth About Bowel Movements
“You're not weird if you're going after every meal. That's actually like your own body. It's called gastrocolic reflex.”
The Hidden Crisis of Early-Onset Colorectal Cancer
“A change in your bowel habits, that's diarrhea, new constipation, maybe it's how thin your stool has suddenly become, that's not no big deal. It might be. And the most likely scenario is that it is no big deal, but it's worth running by your doctor.”
The Science of Gut Permeability and Systemic Inflammation
“When we see elevated levels of antibodies against LPS, it's an indication of permeability. These elevated levels are seen to correlate with Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease.”
The Gut-Brain Connection: More Than Just Digestion
The conversation explores how the gut and brain communicate bidirectionally. Stress can cause gut motility changes, and gut dysfunction can lead to anxiety and depression. Dr. Pasricha argues that conditions like IBS are not 'all in the head' but often start in the gut.
The Limits of Probiotics and the Power of Prebiotics
Dr. Pasricha discusses the limited evidence for probiotics in most conditions and the stronger data for prebiotics. She uses the metaphor of a garden to explain why simply adding 'good seeds' (probiotics) won't work if the environment (diet, lifestyle) isn't improved.
“Treating your gut like a brain means showing it the same respect you show the brain in the head.”
“A change in your bowel habits, that's diarrhea, new constipation, maybe it's how thin your stool has suddenly become, that's not no big deal.”
“When we see elevated levels of antibodies against LPS, it's an indication of permeability. These elevated levels are seen to correlate with Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease.”
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Dr. Tricia Pasricha
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Dr. David Perlmutter
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You've Been Pooping All Wrong
book
Parkinson's Disease
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Microbiome
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Brain Defenders
book
Alzheimer's Disease
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Fecal Microbial Transplant
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IBS
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Cologuard
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