The Interviews (Theo James, John Waters, Matt Bettinelli-Olpin & Tyler Gillett)
Get the full intelligence
Search transcripts, export clips, track mentions, and explore all topics from “The Interviews (Theo James, John Waters, Matt Bettinelli-Olpin & Tyler Gillett)” inside PodZeus.
The Empire Film Podcast's latest episode, 'The Interviews,' delivers a dynamic trio of conversations with major figures in contemporary cinema. First, actor Theo James discusses his role in David McKenzie's high-stakes thriller *Fuse*, a film built on mystery, minimal backstory, and intense tension. James reflects on the challenges of portraying a character with little exposition, the power of silence and close-ups in performance, and his journey from stage to screen, including formative experiences in theatre and early auditions. He also shares insights into his work on *The White Lotus* and *The Monkey*, emphasizing the importance of directorial trust and creative freedom. Next, legendary filmmaker John Waters, the self-proclaimed 'Pope of Trash,' joins to discuss the BFI Southbank's 'Trash!' season, celebrating low-budget, transgressive cinema. Waters traces the roots of trash film to the 1960s underground scene, defends the artistic value of films like *Pink Flamingos* and *Multiple Maniacs*, and argues that shock value can be a form of political and artistic subversion. He reflects on the evolution of his career from underground provocateur to respected auteur, now honored by institutions like the National Film Registry. Finally, directors Matt Bettinelli-Olpin and Tyler Gillett break down the sequel *Ready or Not, Here I Come*, revealing the creative process behind its escalating stakes, absurd yet grounded tone, and the pivotal decision to introduce a sister character to deepen the emotional core. They discuss the origin of the rocket launcher gag, the meticulous crafting of the game’s rules, and how they balanced action with intimate character moments. The episode closes with a reminder to subscribe to Empire's Spoiler Specials for deeper dives into upcoming films. Key takeaways include: 1) Great performances often come from restraint and authenticity, not overthinking facial expressions; 2) Trash cinema, while shocking, is a legitimate art form with political and artistic intent; 3) The most effective genre films use mystery and minimal exposition to build tension; 4) The best creative decisions often emerge from collaborative 'Yes, and...' improvisation; 5) Emotional stakes are crucial even in high-octane action, and relationships must be earned; 6) The most iconic moments in genre films often come from the most absurd ideas executed with deadpan seriousness; 7) Trust between director and actor is essential for naturalistic performances; 8) Evolution in storytelling often requires cutting ideas that don't serve the narrative, even if they're clever.
Great performances come from being present and listening, not from consciously controlling facial expressions.
Trash cinema is a legitimate art form that uses shock and absurdity to subvert societal norms and censorship.
Minimal backstory and mystery can heighten tension and audience investment in a thriller.
The most iconic genre moments often stem from absurd ideas executed with deadpan seriousness and commitment.
Emotional relationships are the engine of genre films, even when characters are under life-threatening duress.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Theo James on 'Fuse': The Art of the Unknowable Character
“You don't need to have every detail kind of spelled out for you. It's supposed to be about just the experience and then the payoff at the end.”
John Waters: The Pope of Trash on the Legacy of Exploitation Cinema
“I always said that to use bad taste and change people's opinion, you'd have to know the rules of good taste.”
Matt Bettinelli-Olpin & Tyler Gillett: The Making of 'Ready or Not, Here I Come'
“We just challenged each other until we all liked something. But the studio was also like, guys, it might be too much. We might be jumping the shark.”
The Evolution of the 'Hide and Seek' Game in the Sequel
The directors discuss how they evolved the central game mechanic from the first film, ensuring it felt fresh while maintaining its core identity. They talk about the challenges of raising the stakes and the importance of the sister relationship in driving the narrative.
The Rocket Launcher: From Absurd Idea to Iconic Moment
The directors recount the origin of the film's most infamous scene, where a rocket launcher is used in a game of hide-and-seek. They describe the collaborative 'Yes, and...' process that led to this decision and the studio's initial hesitation.
“I always said that to use bad taste and change people's opinion, you'd have to know the rules of good taste.”
“You don't need to have every detail kind of spelled out for you. It's supposed to be about just the experience and then the payoff at the end.”
“It's about context and audience. And at the British Film Institute, they can never be obscene.”
Host
Guests
Ready or Not, Here I Come
media
Theo James
person
John Waters
person
Fuse
media
Tyler Gillett
person
Pink Flamingos
media
Matt Bettinelli-Olpin
person
David McKenzie
person
BFI Southbank
organization
Aaron Taylor-Johnson
person
The Psychopomps Are Flying Again (ft. guests Aaron Taylor-Johnson and David Mackenzie)
The Empire Film Podcast • 1h 24m • 4/3/2026
The Interviews (ft. Richard Kind; Regé-Jean Page & Halle Bailey; Ian Tuason & Nina Kiri)
The Empire Film Podcast • 59m • 4/9/2026
Discount Code: WOODALL (ft. guest, James McAvoy)
The Empire Film Podcast • 1h 27m • 4/10/2026
The Interviews (ft. Jack Reynor; Seamus McLean Ross & Samuel Bottomley; Kat Coiro & Will Packer)
The Empire Film Podcast • 54m • 4/17/2026
Lee Cronin's Bluey (ft. guest, Brian Cox)
The Empire Film Podcast • 1h 28m • 4/17/2026
Get the full intelligence
Search transcripts, export clips, track mentions, and explore all topics from “The Interviews (Theo James, John Waters, Matt Bettinelli-Olpin & Tyler Gillett)” inside PodZeus.
Start discovering podcast insights today
Start with a 7-day trial and explore a growing catalog of popular podcasts. No credit card required.
No credit card required • 7-day trial • Cancel anytime
