Episode 289 - A Sweet Renaissance Man: Chance Kelejian-Robles
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In this rich and introspective episode of The Drunken Taoist Podcast, host Rich Evers and co-host Daniele Bolelli welcome Chance Kliegen-Robles, a multifaceted tattoo artist, writer, and spiritual practitioner whose identity is deeply rooted in his multicultural heritage—Armenian, Lakota, Mexican, and Basque. The conversation unfolds as a tapestry of personal revelation, cultural wisdom, and philosophical depth, exploring how art, especially tattooing, functions as a sacred, transformative act that connects inner truth to outer expression. Chance shares a pivotal spiritual vision during a ritual bath in his youth that led him to embrace the jaguar medicine and commit to tattooing as a form of healing and ceremony. He reflects on the responsibility of marking another’s body forever, the meditative state induced by the tattoo process, and the importance of authenticity over commercialization. The dialogue expands into broader themes: the Taoist and indigenous worldview of embracing mystery, the rejection of dogma in favor of eclectic wisdom, and the power of place and energy—whether in Ojai, South Dakota, or Maui. The episode culminates in a profound meditation on life as a series of glimpses rather than answers, and the necessity of humility, integration, and living with intention. The hosts express deep admiration for Chance’s maturity, integrity, and ability to embody multiple disciplines with grace and purpose. Key takeaways include: (1) Tattooing is not just art but a sacred, ceremonial act of transformation and connection; (2) True creativity flourishes when we honor our inner truth rather than chasing external validation or market trends; (3) The most meaningful life is lived with humility, accepting that we only ever get glimpses of deeper truths; (4) Cultural and spiritual wisdom from diverse traditions—indigenous, Zen, Shinto, and more—should be integrated, not compartmentalized; (5) Pain and discomfort, when accepted rather than resisted, become gateways to deeper presence and endurance; (6) The energy of places—like Ojai’s peaceful valley or Maui’s tranquil spirit—can profoundly shape our inner state; (7) Authenticity and connection matter more than fame or profit; and (8) We are all part of a larger, mysterious web—be it the cosmos, the earth, or the human spirit—and our role is to be present, open, and kind.
Tattooing is a sacred ceremony that transforms inner truth into permanent outer expression, requiring deep responsibility and connection.
True art and creativity thrive not from chasing trends or profit, but from authentic inner necessity and expression.
Life is a mystery—accepting that we only get glimpses of truth fosters humility, openness, and deeper wisdom.
Integrate wisdom from all cultures and traditions; reject dogma and embrace the 'Bruce Lee' principle: absorb what is useful, reject what is not.
Pain, when accepted and not resisted, becomes a portal to presence, endurance, and spiritual growth.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Essence of Being on Your Worst Day
“When everything is going terrible, when you're tired, when you're frustrated, when you're edgy, how do you treat other people? Fuck pain. Fuck heartbreak. I'm still in love with life.”
Introducing Chance Kliegen-Robles: A Renaissance Man of the Spirit
Rich and Daniele introduce Chance, a tattoo artist, writer, singer, and healer, whose multicultural identity (Armenian, Lakota, Mexican, Basque) and wide-ranging talents make him a modern embodiment of the Renaissance man. The hosts express awe at his depth and energy.
The Vision That Changed Everything: Jaguar Medicine and the Sacred Tattoo
“I had a vision of an ancestor... she was speaking to me in these mother tongues, you know, to my soul and saying, grandson, you're now ready for the Jaguar medicine.”
Tattooing as Medicine: Ceremony, Connection, and Responsibility
“I have a choice to hurt somebody. That's the difference. And I think there's a great thing that you said where it was like, you know, it's the right thing. It's the right time. It's the right artist.”
The Renaissance Mind: Art as a Path to Presence
Chance reflects on his multi-disciplinary life—writing, music, massage, and sculpture—as expressions of a single inner truth. The hosts draw parallels to Zen philosophy, where all art forms are vehicles for cultivating awareness and inner harmony.
“I don't ever get to understand what's behind the curtain. That's for creator, higher power, whomever you want to call it. I know I call that creator.”
“When everything is going terrible, when you're tired, when you're frustrated, when you're edgy, how do you treat other people? Fuck pain. Fuck heartbreak. I'm still in love with life.”
“Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what specifically you're on, that process.”
Hosts
Guest
Chance Kliegen-Robles
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Rich Evers
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Daniele Bolelli
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Tattooing
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Ojai
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South Dakota
place
Jaguar Medicine
other
Maui
place
Savannah (Nari)
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Lakota
other
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