A New Leader — and a New Showdown — at the Fed
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This episode of The Daily examines the dramatic political showdown between President Trump and the Federal Reserve, culminating in the Senate confirmation of Kevin Warsh as the new Fed chair—replacing Jerome Powell, whom Trump had relentlessly attacked for refusing to cut interest rates. Powell’s surprising decision to stay on the Fed’s Board of Governors beyond his term, despite Trump’s desire for his removal, has created an unprecedented situation: a former chair remaining in a powerful role to resist what he sees as political interference. The crisis was fueled by a criminal investigation into Powell’s handling of Fed headquarters renovations, which many viewed as a politically motivated attempt to force his resignation. The investigation was eventually dropped, but Powell remains, citing the need to protect the Fed’s independence. Meanwhile, Warsh, a former Fed governor and vocal critic of Powell’s expansive monetary policies—especially the ballooning balance sheet—faces a difficult balancing act: fulfilling Trump’s demand for rate cuts while maintaining his own credibility and the Fed’s institutional integrity. With inflation still high and global tensions escalating, Warsh’s first chair meeting in June will be a critical test of whether he can resist political pressure. The episode raises urgent questions about the future of central bank independence in an era of intense political confrontation.
Jerome Powell is staying on the Fed Board beyond his term to protect the institution’s independence from political interference.
The Trump administration’s criminal investigation into Powell over Fed renovations was widely seen as a political tactic to force his resignation.
Kevin Warsh, the new Fed chair, has a history of opposing expansive monetary policy but has shifted his tone on interest rates—raising questions about his true motives.
Warsh’s confirmation is now in jeopardy if he fails to resist Trump’s pressure to cut rates, risking his credibility and the Fed’s autonomy.
Powell’s decision to stay may inadvertently politicize the Fed, but he argues it’s necessary to prevent a president from stacking the Board with loyalists.
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The New Fed Chair and the Old Guard
The episode opens with a brief introduction to The Daily’s fact-checking process, followed by a dramatic narrative of President Trump replacing Jerome Powell as Fed chair with Kevin Warsh, despite Powell’s refusal to leave. The Senate confirms Warsh, but Powell’s unexpected decision to stay on the Board of Governors creates a constitutional and political anomaly.
The War Against Powell: From Rhetoric to Criminal Investigation
“If you wanted to design a system to cause interest rates to go up and not down... You would have the Federal Reserve of the United States and the executive branch of the United States get into a pissing contest.”
Powell’s Unprecedented Decision to Stay
“I worry that these attacks are battering the institution and putting at risk the thing that really matters to the public, which is the ability to conduct monetary policy without taking into consideration political factors.”
The Power of the Board: Why Powell’s Stay Matters
Powell’s continued presence blocks Trump from appointing a new governor, limiting the president’s ability to reshape the Fed’s leadership. This gives Powell leverage to preserve the Fed’s independence, even without the chairmanship.
Kevin Warsh: The New Chair and the Flip-Flop on Rates
“Had the balance sheet not been brought from the $800 billion level when I showed up at the Fed in 2006 to an order of magnitude higher, I think interest rates could be lower, inflation could be better, and the economy could be stronger.”
“I worry that these attacks are battering the institution and putting at risk the thing that really matters to the public, which is the ability to conduct monetary policy without taking into consideration political factors.”
“If anything, it's going to make things worse. And so this puts Warsh in an incredibly uncomfortable position... He spent his entire confirmation hearing basically trying to disabuse lawmakers of the notion that he was going to operate as Trump's sock puppet.”
“If you wanted to design a system to cause interest rates to go up and not down... You would have the Federal Reserve of the United States and the executive branch of the United States get into a pissing contest.”
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Donald Trump
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Jerome Powell
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Kevin Warsh
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Board of Governors
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Jeanine Pirro
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U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia
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Tom Tillis
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