Can AI solve the problems it creates? (with David Sacks)

The Conversation with Dasha Burns43mMay 1, 2026

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In this episode of The Conversation, host Dasha Burns sits down with David Sachs, Special Advisor to President Trump on AI, to explore the U.S. strategy for leading the global AI race. Sachs advocates for a 'let-them-cook' philosophy—minimal, non-disruptive regulation to foster innovation, arguing that slowing down U.S. AI development would cede ground to China, which already hosts half the world’s AI talent. He outlines three pillars of the administration’s AI framework: permissionless innovation, pro-energy infrastructure (to support power-hungry data centers), and pro-export policies to ensure American AI models dominate global markets. Sachs addresses public fears around AI—child safety, job displacement, and cybersecurity—with targeted solutions like parental empowerment, ratepayer protection pledges, and AI-driven cyber defense. He dismisses broad liability for AI companies, arguing developers can't monitor every use case, and emphasizes that AI will likely solve the very problems it creates, such as cyber threats. Despite widespread public skepticism—only 39% of Americans are optimistic about AI compared to 83% in China—Sachs remains confident that the U.S. can win the race through smart policy, economic momentum, and a focus on real harms rather than fear-driven regulation.

Key Takeaways
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Adopt a 'let-them-cook' approach: minimize regulation to stay ahead in the global AI race, especially against China.

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AI will likely solve the problems it creates—especially in cybersecurity, where AI-powered defense can outpace AI-powered attacks.

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Targeted solutions (not blanket bans) are key: protect ratepayers from rising electricity costs, empower parents on child safety, and address specific harms.

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Public fear is a bigger threat than AI itself—U.S. pessimism undermines national leadership in AI.

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Job loss fears are overstated: AI is augmenting rather than replacing workers, especially in coding and white-collar tasks.

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Chapters
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5 min

The AI Race and U.S. Strategy

We have to win this AI race. And I'm not sure it has a definite finish line. Some people have said it's more of an infinite game. Either way, though, we don't want to fall behind our global competitors.

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5:00
7 min

The 'Let-Them-Cook' Philosophy

If somehow we slow down or stop AI development, it doesn't mean that AI progress is going to stop. It just means it's going to happen in other countries and specifically China.

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11:40
8 min

Regulation, Liability, and Safety

The conversation turns to regulation, with Sachs rejecting broad liability for AI companies. He argues developers can't monitor every use case and supports targeted solutions like parental empowerment and ratepayer protection pledges.

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10 min

AI and National Security: The Anthropic Controversy

If you want to sell to the Department of War, you have to accept that they can use your product in lawful ways. You don't get to dictate the chain of command.

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30:00
10 min

AI in Cybersecurity: The Mythos Model

AI is going to solve the problem that AI creates. I mean, that's kind of my view on where that market is going.

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High-Impact Quotes
AI is going to solve the problem that AI creates. I mean, that's kind of my view on where that market is going.
David Sachs21:28
Viral: 92.0
If somehow we slow down or stop AI development, it doesn't mean that AI progress is going to stop. It just means it's going to happen in other countries and specifically China.
David Sachs3:26
Viral: 88.0
We have to win this AI race. And I'm not sure it has a definite finish line. Some people have said it's more of an infinite game. Either way, though, we don't want to fall behind our global competitors.
David Sachs3:06
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Dasha Burns

Guest

David Sachs
Topics Discussed
Global AI Competition92%AI Regulation and Innovation90%Cybersecurity and AI88%Public Perception and Trust in AI85%AI and the Workforce80%Government-Industry Tensions78%AI Ethics and Safety75%Political Influence on AI70%
People & Brands

David Sachs

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25xPositive

President Trump

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18xPositive

Dasha Burns

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15xPositive

China

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12xNeutral

Anthropic

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10xNeutral

Pentagon

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9xNeutral

Mythos

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8xPositive

ChatGPT

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7xNeutral

OpenAI

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6xNeutral

Elon Musk

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5xNeutral

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