Things are Not So Linear with Matthew Cordell

In this heartfelt episode of The Children's Book Podcast, host Matthew Winner reconnects with author and illustrator Matthew Cordell to discuss his newest picture book, 102—a surreal, dreamlike adventure about a boy named George who shrinks in size after a fever and embarks on a magical journey through a miniature world beyond his bedroom walls. Cordell reflects on his creative evolution, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, artistic experimentation, and staying open to the unexpected. He shares how his work has shifted from morally driven stories to more fantastical, nonlinear narratives, inspired by influences like Maurice Sendak and Lewis Carroll. A central theme is the power of curiosity, which Cordell sees as a vital force in children and a necessary antidote to adult complacency. He also speaks passionately about the hope he finds in schools, where young minds and dedicated educators embody collective kindness and growth. The conversation underscores the value of creative risk-taking and the profound impact of staying open to wonder, even when the art feels 'ugly' or unfamiliar at first. Key takeaways include: 1) Curiosity is a superpower—especially in children—and should be nurtured throughout life; 2) Artists must resist the pressure to repeat themselves and instead embrace change and experimentation; 3) The most meaningful stories often emerge from loose, spontaneous processes rather than rigid planning; 4) Schools are vital sanctuaries of hope and collective care; 5) Embracing imperfection in art and storytelling can lead to deeper, more authentic work; 6) Small, unexpected inspirations—like a scented pen or a recurring number—can ripple into major creative projects; 7) Definitively answering whether a fantastical story is real (as Cordell does in 102) can be a powerful narrative choice that invites deeper engagement; 8) Growth as an artist comes not from consistency, but from continual reinvention.