The Greatest War Movies Ever Made, According to a Retired General
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In this episode of The Bulwark, culture editor Sonny Bunch interviews retired General Mark Hurtling about his curated list of the greatest war films ever made, emphasizing their value not just as entertainment but as tools for leadership and strategic learning. Hurtling, drawing from his military experience, frames war movies as part of the 'three-legged stool' of military education—alongside formal training and operational experience—arguing that they offer profound insights into personality dynamics, strategic planning, and the human cost of war. He walks through his top 12 picks, from the Civil War epic Gettysburg to the modern intelligence thriller Zero Dark Thirty, highlighting how each film reveals critical lessons about command, ego, risk, and the often-fragile link between tactical excellence and strategic success. The conversation underscores a recurring theme: even the most heroic small-unit leadership can fail without coherent grand strategy and political clarity. Hurtling’s analysis reveals a deeper cultural and institutional critique: many war films, especially those from the post-Vietnam and Iraq/Afghanistan eras, accurately portray the grit and competence of soldiers but often fail to address the larger strategic failures that undermine their sacrifices. He points to films like A Bridge Too Far and Restrepo as cautionary tales where brilliant tactical execution couldn't overcome flawed or overly optimistic strategic planning. The episode concludes with a haunting reflection on Courage Under Fire, which explores the tragic consequences of friendly fire and the moral weight of command decisions. Together, these films serve as both tribute and warning, urging leaders—military and civilian alike—to prioritize not just bravery, but wisdom, humility, and strategic coherence.
War movies are not just entertainment—they’re essential tools for leadership development, offering lessons in personality, strategy, and command under pressure.
Tactical excellence at the unit level cannot compensate for flawed or absent strategic vision; even heroic soldiers can be set up for failure by poor higher-level planning.
The most effective modern warfare relies on deep integration between military forces and intelligence agencies, as seen in films like Zero Dark Thirty and the real-life work of figures like Bill McRaven and Stan McChrystal.
Films like A Bridge Too Far and Restrepo reveal the dangers of over-optimism and unclear objectives, showing how even well-led units can suffer strategic defeat.
Leadership is not just about charisma or ego—true command requires humility, listening to subordinates, and questioning assumptions, especially from senior generals and politicians.
Introduction: War Movies as Leadership Lessons
Sonny Bunch introduces retired General Mark Hurtling, framing war films as part of a military leader’s self-study education, alongside formal training and operational experience. The episode sets up a discussion of Hurtling’s top 12 war films, each chosen for its strategic and leadership insights.
Gettysburg: The Power of Personality in War
“Because of Lee being as adamant as he was... and changing what he was doing constantly in the battle on the campaign plan, it caused disaster for the South.”
Patton and A Bridge Too Far: Ego vs. Strategic Failure
“You can have a great army doing wonderful things under great tactical and operational leadership. But if the strategic plan is not nailed down... you're placing a whole lot of burden on those who serve for an end state that doesn't come about.”
Restrepo: Heroism Without Purpose
“If the strategy is bad, if they've been put in a context where it's very difficult for their tactical actions to control the battlefield, then you're going to have failure.”
Zero Dark Thirty and Courage Under Fire: Intelligence and Moral Weight
Hurtling highlights Zero Dark Thirty as a tribute to intelligence endurance and the fusion of military and intelligence operations. He ends with Courage Under Fire, reflecting on the moral and psychological toll of command, especially in cases of friendly fire.
“You can have a great army doing wonderful things under great tactical and operational leadership. But if the strategic plan is not nailed down... you're placing a whole lot of burden on those who serve for an end state that doesn't come about.”
“If the strategy is bad, if they've been put in a context where it's very difficult for their tactical actions to control the battlefield, then you're going to have failure.”
“Because of Lee being as adamant as he was... and changing what he was doing constantly in the battle on the campaign plan, it caused disaster for the South.”
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Mark Hurtling
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Sonny Bunch
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Gettysburg
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Restrepo
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A Bridge Too Far
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Zero Dark Thirty
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Patton
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Bill McRaven
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Stan McChrystal
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Courage Under Fire
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