Judge Tosses Trump’s WSJ Lawsuit Over Epstein Birthday Card (w/ Elliot Williams)
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In this episode of The Bulwark, host Sarah Longwell and guest Elliot Williams discuss the recent dismissal of Donald Trump's defamation lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal over the publication of a controversial birthday card from Jeffrey Epstein. The judge ruled that the Wall Street Journal did not act with 'actual malice'—a high legal standard—because they made extensive efforts to verify the card's authenticity, including contacting Trump, the FBI, and the Justice Department. Williams emphasizes that public figures like Trump face a higher burden in defamation cases, and the lawsuit is part of a broader pattern of Trump using litigation to intimidate the press and chill investigative journalism. The episode also explores the chilling effect of such lawsuits, referencing high-profile cases against the New York Times, the Des Moines Register, and pollster Ann Selzer. Longwell and Williams reflect on the erosion of trust in democratic institutions, drawing parallels to Hungary’s Orban regime and warning of the dangers of normalizing election denialism. The conversation closes with a discussion of the Trump DOJ’s targeting of former White House aides like Cassidy Hutchinson and Sarah Matthews, highlighting the ongoing threat to accountability and free expression. Key takeaways include: 1) The legal standard for defamation against public figures requires proof of 'actual malice,' which was not met in the WSJ case; 2) Trump’s repeated lawsuits against the media serve as a strategic tool to intimidate and silence critical reporting; 3) The targeting of journalists and whistleblowers like Hutchinson and Matthews signals a broader assault on democratic accountability; 4) The U.S. still has functional democratic institutions, but they are under sustained pressure; 5) Vigilance is essential to prevent the normalization of authoritarian tactics in American politics.
Public figures must prove 'actual malice' to win defamation lawsuits, which was not established in the WSJ case.
Trump’s lawsuits against the press are a strategic effort to intimidate and chill investigative journalism.
The targeting of whistleblowers like Cassidy Hutchinson reflects a broader campaign to silence accountability.
Democratic institutions remain functional but are under sustained threat from coordinated attacks on truth and transparency.
The normalization of election denialism and authoritarian rhetoric poses a real danger to American democracy.
Apology for Misused Legal Example
Sarah Longwell apologizes for using the McDonald's coffee case as a punchline, acknowledging its insensitivity given the real harm suffered by Stella Liebek. She reflects on the importance of context and accountability in public discourse.
Satirical Legal Thought Experiment: Could Jesus Sue Trump?
“If I were to walk down the street and start saying, I'm Sarah Longwell, please give me money, I could actually hurt the brand of you or The Bulwark or any of the work you do because you have a right to your likeness and to make money off of it.”
Trump’s Defamation Lawsuit Against the Wall Street Journal Tossed
“The article explains that before running the story, defendants contacted President Trump, Justice Department officials and the FBI for comment.”
The Legal Standard of 'Actual Malice' and Press Freedom
“The law just requires the Wall Street Journal to do everything they can to establish that they can't prove that it's fake or not.”
Trump’s Pattern of Lawsuits and the Chilling Effect on the Press
“He uses those lawsuits to chill the civic space of free press, which is like an essential to our democracy.”
“The president of the United States is now going to start talking about rigged elections in other countries as a way of undermining their integrity, as a way of undermining our own.”
“He uses those lawsuits to chill the civic space of free press, which is like an essential to our democracy.”
“The article explains that before running the story, defendants contacted President Trump, Justice Department officials and the FBI for comment.”
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Donald Trump
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Sarah Longwell
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Elliot Williams
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Wall Street Journal
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Jeffrey Epstein
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Cassidy Hutchinson
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Ann Selzer
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Viktor Orban
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Hungary
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