Is U.S. Policy Hurting Cubans More Than the Regime? (w/ Juan Gonzalez)

The Bulwark15mApril 5, 2026

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In this episode of The Bulwark, host Jon Avalon interviews Juan Gonzalez, a former National Security Council staffer with deep expertise in Latin America, to dissect the Trump administration's foreign policy approach in Central and South America—particularly regarding Venezuela, Iran, and Cuba. Gonzalez argues that the administration’s coercive strategy, driven by a desire for regime change and resource access, has failed to account for long-term consequences, leading to instability without sustainable outcomes. He critiques the lack of coordination with allies, the underestimation of Iran’s ability to disrupt global oil markets via the Strait of Hormuz, and the flawed assumption that Venezuela’s oil and gas reserves can quickly benefit U.S. energy security. While acknowledging some progress in stabilizing Venezuela under Delcy Rodríguez, Gonzalez warns that the administration’s focus on oil and migration risks sidelining democratic transition and marginalizing opposition leaders like Maria Corina Machado. He contrasts this with the Biden administration’s democracy-first approach, highlighting a dangerous shift toward resource-driven interventionism. The conversation turns sharply to Cuba, where Gonzalez contends that U.S. policy—particularly the embargo—may be doing more harm than the Cuban regime itself. He draws a parallel between Cuba’s current humanitarian crisis and Haiti’s collapse, emphasizing the brain drain and deteriorating living conditions. While Rubio and other hardliners view Venezuela as a stepping stone to change in Cuba, Gonzalez warns this strategy is shortsighted and potentially counterproductive. He stresses that without a clear democratic vision, U.S. intervention risks entrenching authoritarian pragmatism over genuine reform. The episode underscores a broader theme: foreign policy driven by immediate gains often undermines long-term stability and democratic aspirations.

Key Takeaways
1

U.S. foreign policy in Latin America is increasingly driven by resource extraction and regime change, often at the expense of democratic transitions.

2

The Trump administration’s approach to Venezuela prioritizes economic stabilization and oil access over free and fair elections, risking long-term democratic backsliding.

3

Delcy Rodríguez’s role in Venezuela’s transition may be more pragmatic than ideological, but her rise raises concerns about exclusion of opposition leaders like Maria Corina Machado.

4

The U.S. embargo on Cuba may be exacerbating humanitarian conditions more than the Cuban regime itself, creating a crisis comparable to Haiti’s collapse.

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Iran’s ability to disrupt global oil markets via the Strait of Hormuz is underestimated, and U.S. policy lacks coordination and foresight.

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Chapters
0:00
1 min

The Humanitarian Crisis in Cuba

You know what I worry about is, I think today Cuba is more comparable to the situation in Haiti than it is to any other part.

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1:00
2 min

U.S. Foreign Policy and the Iran Escalation

Gonzalez critiques the Trump administration’s approach to Iran, arguing it failed to anticipate second-order effects like global oil market disruption and lack of alliance coordination.

3:00
3 min

Venezuela: A Resource-Driven Intervention

The discussion turns to Venezuela, where Gonzalez explains the administration’s focus on oil and gas extraction, despite limited near-term benefits and long-term recovery timelines.

5:30
3 min

The Delcy Rodríguez Dilemma

You can't really throw that by the wayside.

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8:30
4 min

Cuba and the Embargo Paradox

I think today Cuba is more comparable to the situation in Haiti than it is to any other part.

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High-Impact Quotes
I think this administration, I think, to a certain extent, really was drunk on coercive power and felt that they could actually promote regime change in a place like Iran that is much more complicated than even Iraq or Afghanistan.
Juan Gonzalez2:24
Viral: 90.0
You know what I worry about is, I think today Cuba is more comparable to the situation in Haiti than it is to any other part.
Juan Gonzalez0:00
Viral: 85.0
The U.S. cannot affect the price of gas at home despite being the world’s top oil and gas producer due to global interdependence.
Juan Gonzalez10:38
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Host

Jon Avalon

Guest

Juan Gonzalez
Topics Discussed
Cuba's Humanitarian Crisis95%U.S. Foreign Policy Strategy90%Regime Change vs. Democratic Transition88%Venezuela's Oil and Gas Potential85%Role of Marco Rubio in Latin America Policy82%Global Oil Market Interdependence80%U.S. Sanctions and Diplomacy75%Cuban Diaspora Influence70%
People & Brands

United States

place

20xMixed

Venezuela

place

18xMixed

Trump administration

organization

15xNegative

Delcy Rodríguez

person

12xPositive

Juan Gonzalez

person

12xNeutral

Cuba

place

11xNegative

Marco Rubio

person

10xPositive

Iran

place

10xNegative

Jon Avalon

person

8xNeutral

Nicolás Maduro

person

7xNegative

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