Courts Keep Rejecting Trump’s Tariffs

The Bulwark15mMay 8, 2026

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In this episode of The Bulwark, hosts JVL and Catherine Rampell dissect the latest economic data, focusing on a surprisingly strong jobs report showing 115,000 new jobs—above expectations but down from previous months. Despite ongoing policy-driven economic pressures from Donald Trump’s tariffs, war-related inflation, and attempts to politicize the Federal Reserve, the economy continues to 'muddle through.' The discussion highlights the growing disconnect between hard data and consumer sentiment, with lower-income Americans increasingly frustrated by rising prices, especially energy and goods costs, while wealthier individuals with stock holdings remain relatively insulated. Key concerns include stagnant wage growth, rising commodity prices (notably aluminum), and the risk of inflation expectations becoming self-fulfilling. The episode also explores the political dangers of Trump’s ongoing efforts to undermine Fed independence, including threats to indict Fed members like Lisa Cook and potential retaliation against Fed Chair Kevin Warsh if interest rates don’t fall as demanded. The hosts express deep concern that Trump’s actions may be exacerbating long-term economic instability, even as the economy avoids immediate collapse.

Key Takeaways
1

Despite Trump’s aggressive economic policies, the job market remains resilient, with 115,000 new jobs added—above expectations.

2

Wage growth is not keeping pace with inflation, especially for lower-income households, creating real purchasing power erosion.

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Rising commodity prices—aluminum, fertilizer, plastics—signal future cost increases for consumers, particularly in durable goods like cars and appliances.

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Consumer sentiment is deteriorating, especially among non-stock-owning Americans who feel the pinch of inflation without the cushion of rising asset values.

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Trump’s attempts to pressure the Fed and fire independent members like Lisa Cook threaten long-term monetary credibility and could trigger a self-fulfilling inflation spiral.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introduction and Job Numbers Overview

JVL and Catherine Rampell open the episode with a lighthearted tone, introducing the focus on economic data and setting the stage for a deep dive into job numbers and broader economic trends.

2:00
3 min

The Resilience of the Economy Amid Policy Headwinds

The hosts discuss how the economy continues to function despite Trump’s controversial policies—tariffs, war spending, politicization of the BLS and Fed—highlighting the paradox of resilience amid deliberate destabilization.

5:00
4 min

Wage Growth vs. Inflation: The Hidden Crisis

If you don't have a huge amount of wage growth, but you do have a huge amount of price increases, that means every dollar that people out there earn is worth a little bit less, can buy a little less stuff in the world.

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9:00
4 min

Commodity Inflation and the Aluminum Shock

Ford said that its commodity costs have doubled in the past year. They've gone from like one billion, or they've gone twice as high as they were expected to anyway.

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13:00
2 min

The Fed, Trump, and the Threat to Independence

The real risk is that like Donald Trump and Bill Paltier and the other minions get greedy and they say, you know, we realize that we have this tool at our disposal to kind of push out the people that we don't want...

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High-Impact Quotes
The real risk is that like Donald Trump and Bill Paltier and the other minions get greedy and they say, you know, we realize that we have this tool at our disposal to kind of push out the people that we don't want...
Catherine Rampell10:50
Viral: 90.0
You people said COVID was going to be terrible and look, it was fine. Well, a million people died.
JVL3:18
Viral: 88.0
If you don't have a huge amount of wage growth, but you do have a huge amount of price increases, that means every dollar that people out there earn is worth a little bit less, can buy a little less stuff in the world.
Matt6:22
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Hosts

JVLCatherine Rampell
Topics Discussed
Federal Reserve Independence92%Wage Growth vs. Inflation90%Commodity Price Inflation88%Trump's Economic Policies87%Economic Resilience Amid Policy Distress85%Inflation Expectations and Self-Fulfilling Prophecies83%Consumer Sentiment and Inequality80%Stock Market Disconnect75%
People & Brands

Donald Trump

person

28xNegative

Catherine Rampell

person

15xNeutral

Federal Reserve

organization

14xNegative

JVL

person

12xNeutral

Lisa Cook

person

6xNegative

Kevin Warsh

person

5xNegative

Aluminum

other

5xNegative

Bill Paltier

person

3xNegative

Jay Powell

person

3xNegative

Ford F-150

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3xNeutral

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