Ep. 2424 - Here’s How China SPIES on the US

The Ben Shapiro Show1h 2mMay 12, 2026

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In this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, Ben Shapiro delivers a forceful critique of China's deep and systemic infiltration of American institutions, framing the People's Republic of China as a geopolitical enemy rather than a mere rival. He details numerous cases of Chinese espionage and propaganda, including the resignation of Arcadia, California mayor Eileen Wang as a foreign agent, the prosecution of New York aide Linda Sun, and the Harvard professor Charles Lieber's involvement with China's Thousand Talents Plan. Shapiro argues that China's strategy relies on exploiting American openness—through academic exchange programs, supply chain dependencies, and digital platforms like TikTok—to steal intellectual property, undermine democratic institutions, and advance its global hegemony. He advocates for a comprehensive strategy of economic isolation, including cutting off Chinese foreign students, decoupling supply chains, and using U.S. trade leverage to isolate China by offering better deals to allies like Canada, Japan, and the EU. Shapiro also connects U.S. foreign policy actions in Iran and Venezuela to weakening China’s oil supply and geopolitical alliances. He warns that the legacy media, particularly The New York Times, actively aids foreign adversaries by spreading disinformation, citing Nicholas Kristof’s baseless op-ed on Israeli sexual violence. The episode concludes with a broader cultural critique, blaming declining birth rates on secularism and anti-family narratives, and urging Americans to reject conspiracism and embrace personal responsibility.

Key Takeaways
1

China is a geopolitical enemy using espionage, propaganda, and economic leverage to undermine U.S. global dominance.

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Cutting off Chinese foreign exchange students and decoupling supply chains are essential to protect national security.

3

The U.S. should isolate China by offering better trade deals to allies, not by seeking Chinese purchases.

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Foreign policy actions in Iran and Venezuela are strategically aimed at weakening China’s oil access and regional influence.

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Legacy media outlets like The New York Times are actively aiding foreign adversaries through disinformation.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

China as America's Geopolitical Enemy

China is not just America's geopolitical opponent. They are our geopolitical enemy.

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10:00
10 min

Case Studies of Chinese Infiltration

They did propaganda on behalf of the Chinese government is basically what happened.

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20:00
10 min

Strategies to Isolate China

Pick between us. You can either have access to American markets or you can have access to Chinese manufacturing. Those are your choices.

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10 min

U.S. Foreign Policy as Anti-China Strategy

Shapiro argues that U.S. actions in Iran and Venezuela are not just regional moves but part of a broader effort to cut off China’s oil supply and geopolitical allies, weakening its global influence.

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10 min

The Role of the Legacy Media

Always count on the legacy media to do the work of America's enemies.

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High-Impact Quotes
China is not just America's geopolitical opponent. They are our geopolitical enemy.
Ben Shapiro0:00
Viral: 95.0
Always count on the legacy media to do the work of America's enemies.
Ben Shapiro50:40
Viral: 90.0
Pick between us. You can either have access to American markets or you can have access to Chinese manufacturing. Those are your choices.
Ben Shapiro11:21
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Ben Shapiro

Guest

Sam Brownback
Topics Discussed
China's espionage and infiltration95%Economic decoupling from China90%Legacy media and disinformation88%U.S. foreign policy and China85%Foreign influence operations online80%Religious freedom and China78%Declining birth rates in America75%Cultural decline and anti-family narratives70%
People & Brands

China

place

45xNegative

Ben Shapiro

person

38xPositive

President Trump

person

22xPositive

Iran

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18xNegative

The New York Times

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15xNegative

Sam Brownback

person

12xPositive

Nicholas Kristof

person

8xNegative

Hezbollah

organization

6xNegative

Hamas

organization

5xNegative

UN

organization

5xNegative

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