Ep. 2419 - VP Vows Action On DW Investigation

The Ben Shapiro Show1h 1mMay 5, 2026

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The Ben Shapiro Show episode 2419 dives into a major investigative exposé by The Daily Wire on alleged Medicaid fraud in Ohio, where hundreds of shell companies registered under Cordoba Real Estate in Columbus have reportedly bilked taxpayers of hundreds of millions through fraudulent billing for personal services. The Vice President has pledged to investigate, and senior reporter Luke Rosiak details how data analysis led to the discovery of empty office buildings housing dozens of Medicaid-registered businesses, many of which appear to pay family members to provide 'companionship' services. Vivek Ramaswamy, the likely next governor of Ohio, joins the show to discuss his plan to crack down on fraud by enforcing existing laws, prosecuting offenders, and reforming broken federal incentive structures that reward states for spending federal money rather than saving it. He argues that the real issue is not just fraud but systemic waste and dependency fostered by the welfare state, and he positions himself as a pragmatic conservative entrepreneur ready to lead with accountability. The episode also critiques the Met Gala as a performative display of wealth, condemns the left's 'permission structure for violence' in rhetoric and politics, and previews a new trailer for Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey, defending its casting and language against criticism. Finally, it covers escalating tensions with Iran, where the U.S. is now guiding neutral ships through the Strait of Hormuz, undermining Iran's leverage and potentially forcing a reckoning with its failing economy.

Key Takeaways
1

Ohio's Medicaid system is allegedly riddled with fraud through shell companies billing for unverifiable 'personal services' like companionship, with buildings in Columbus housing hundreds of empty businesses.

2

The Vice President has committed to investigating the fraud, and J.D. Vance’s task force is expected to take action, highlighting the power of investigative journalism to drive policy change.

3

Vivek Ramaswamy argues that systemic fraud stems from broken federal incentives—states lose reimbursement when they cut waste, so they have no financial motive to act.

4

Ramaswamy proposes fixing the system by rewarding states that save federal money, restoring accountability, and replacing bureaucratic inertia with entrepreneurial leadership.

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The episode criticizes the left’s rhetoric around 'fascism' and 'violence' as enabling dangerous ideologies, citing examples from Minnesota, Michigan, and the Democratic Party’s support for controversial figures.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

Ohio Medicaid Fraud Exposé and VP Response

The shocking allegations, if true, show why the fraud's task force work is so important. I'm directing the task force to look into it and take immediate action to prosecute any fraudsters involved and stop all further payments as appropriate.

Highlight
10:00
15 min

Investigative Deep Dive: Empty Buildings, Family Billing, and Political Ties

The government actually pays you to take care of your own family. That's the scam, according to Luke's reporting.

Highlight
25:00
22 min

Vivek Ramaswamy on Fighting Fraud and Fixing Incentives

You have to send that deterrent signal. The idea that you're just going to get away with bilking the government... is not okay.

Highlight
46:40
15 min

Critique of Left-Wing Rhetoric and the 'Permission Structure for Violence'

Shapiro condemns the left's use of terms like 'fascism' without evidence, arguing it creates a dangerous permission structure for violence. He cites examples from Minnesota, Michigan, and the Democratic Party’s support for controversial figures like Graham Plattner and Abdul El-Sayed.

1:01:40
17 min

The Met Gala: A Performance of Anti-Capitalism

The show mocks the Met Gala as a ridiculous, performative display of wealth where the rich decry their own wealth while participating in extravagant fashion. Protesters attempted to invade the event and left bottles of pee as 'art' to protest Jeff Bezos.

High-Impact Quotes
The American dream is built on the idea that the number one factor that determines what you achieve in life is you.
Vivek Ramaswamy33:16
Viral: 95.0
They have a problem coming up because they have it's a very explosive situation in a lot of different ways... their oil, when you turn off the oil underground and the mechanical too, but underground has a tendency in like almost 100 percent of the cases to literally explode and just destroy everything around it.
President Trump55:06
Viral: 92.0
The government actually pays you to take care of your own family. That's the scam, according to Luke's reporting.
Luke Rosiak3:29
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Host

Ben Shapiro

Guests

Luke RosiakVivek Ramaswamy
Topics Discussed
Medicaid Fraud in Ohio95%Iranian Blockade and U.S. Response90%Entrepreneurial Leadership in Government88%Government Incentive Structures85%Political Accountability and Enforcement80%Left-Wing Rhetoric and Violence75%Cultural Performances of Wealth70%Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey60%
People & Brands

Vivek Ramaswamy

person

18xPositive

Iran

place

12xNegative

Luke Rosiak

person

12xPositive

Strait of Hormuz

other

8xNeutral

Met Gala

other

7xNegative

President Trump

person

7xPositive

Cordoba Real Estate

organization

6xNegative

Vice President

person

5xPositive

Jeff Bezos

person

5xNegative

SuperSure

organization

4xPositive

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